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From Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Formats of SHA/MD5 checksums
Date Fri, 30 Nov 2012 07:49:44 GMT


Roman Shaposhnik <rvs@apache.org> wrote:

>+infra
>
>Ping! I would really like this annoyance to be resolved one way or the
>other.
>Could somebody more experienced with Apache web properties answer
>the question?
>
>============================================================
>> Question: how do we go about discouraging it then? Do we need a vote
>> to modify the content of:
>>    http://www.apache.org/dev/release-signing#md5
>>
>> Or even more basic question -- where's the source for that
>> webpage?
>============================================================

No vote is required to change that web page. Those pages are infra owned but any member can
change them.

Since infra owns the page, it would be polite to suggest the alternative text on infrastructure@.
Once that is agreed, any member can apply it.

With my infra hat on, I have no objection to standardising on the md5sum format for MD5 checksums.

A couple of side issues:
Firstly, you removed far to much context when adding infra to the thread. I had to go digging
through the archives to figure out what the problem was.

Secondly, votes are not the way to drive change. Discussion is.

The process is not:
- see an issue
- pick a solution
- start a vote for implementing that solution
- drive through the change

but:
- see an issue
- discuss options to fix it
- agree the way forward (consensus)
- make the change

Releases and new committers are pretty much the only time I'd expect to see votes in an Apache
community.

Mark

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