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From Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: PPMC versus commiter
Date Thu, 20 Dec 2012 05:07:24 GMT
Shane actually wrote that page but I still hate the exclusionary draft label he picked up from
rbd.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 19, 2012, at 11:52 PM, Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com> wrote:

> That's the whole problem with Robert's labels, they scare people away from working on
the document while simultaneously pretend that there is some supercommittee who will determine
when one of his drafts is no longer a draft.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 19, 2012, at 11:47 PM, Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 5:44 AM, Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> That's just RBD's signature boilerplate for a document he likely started.  Feel
free to remove it if you think it detracts from the document.
>>> 
>> 
>> I leave the labeling of a document to the people who worked on it
>> 
>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Dec 19, 2012, at 11:40 PM, Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d.s@daniel.shahaf.name>
wrote:
>>>>> Ross Gardler wrote on Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 22:13:17 +0000:
>>>>>> Christian, you can review any podling I'm a mentor on, including
AOO, to
>>>>>> see discussion of both models. I'm sure many other projects have
discussed
>>>>>> this too.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The page you refer to is correct, there are two separate roles as
>>>>>> recognised by the foundation.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You do have a point that things can be documented more clearly, they
always
>>>>>> can be, but I don't think the how it works page is at fault. That
page
>>>>>> doesn't describe how someone gets those roles, it merely defines
the roles
>>>>>> the foundation recognises.
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs#merit describes both
>>>>> modes of operation.
>>>> 
>>>> Didn't know about that document, but its good.
>>>> 
>>>> Unfortunately: "This document is a DRAFT and should not be considered
>>>> as a normative or detailed explanation at the current time."
>>>> 
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