Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BE547D167 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 08:58:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 83318 invoked by uid 500); 26 Nov 2012 08:58:05 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 82743 invoked by uid 500); 26 Nov 2012 08:58:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 82695 invoked by uid 99); 26 Nov 2012 08:58:03 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 08:58:03 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of grobmeier@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.47 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.219.47] (HELO mail-oa0-f47.google.com) (209.85.219.47) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 08:57:57 +0000 Received: by mail-oa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id h1so10290236oag.6 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 00:57:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=+xiVzVBdS6g9e72++dZmUbO9WKzBe4vwWIe+o2aCIxc=; b=xVjGktbbbm15tABcUnYqUnvxYF4GJCIvaghOxVEf1v18waC2Mm8hM6T9CUfneV/uS7 8xF7DrflxRlxlbO+HHUaBPIR8LM5c+3EGxrooZTdXNa6K++FW1i1zUc2Nuuz2iK9MGZw nMuLUB1Uor+r9RQUDAWysBhZ5iDML8hi9NT7cfNxPatvwUpVl0XFFlQoVl5Xe4Jr9y2Z Myf/0I7uDl7shhloHtPHA2LklSR4u4kKHMpYzwCem48WN0LI4Pgdz0EAM4eTMX/17Gut oV6I06b1J1q/dEMnSQ4JO4OUVtf01BjdzsCin4P1NIY1gsE2MrBCSI8uyOreyVCdMf8I NK+g== Received: by 10.60.24.10 with SMTP id q10mr8488046oef.120.1353920257185; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 00:57:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.76.76.230 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 00:57:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Christian Grobmeier Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 09:57:16 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What constitute a successful project? To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Actually there is activity. Only in September 2 new committers joined. Looking at SVN, there is activity too: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/chukwa/trunk/src/main/java/org/apache/hadoop/chukwa/ Unfortunately the most active committer - if not the only one - is Eric. For me (others may correct me) a successful incubator project is one which manages to build up a community around it. While it seems that Chukwa aims at it: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-chukwa-dev/201209.mbox/%3CCAFk14gt_8bwOZ3=2bMMKsjMPfTOVh2_S+ncRYA3By9Yo4hZ+uw@mail.gmail.com%3E the project has not managed to get a momentum. On the other hand, I saw in the private archives that some legal restrictions have been resolved. Question: How does the Chukwa project want to build up a new community? Personally - if there is a plan and interest to make community work (however that looks like) - I would be open to leave Chukwa a little longer in incubation. Esp. because it seems that committers can now work more freely on it. Maybe we can make up some kind of deadline? Cheers Christian On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:33 AM, Eric Yang wrote: > Hi IPMC, > > For the past two years, Chukwa has been labelled as non-active project by > mentors, and has been put on votes for retiring this project by mentor and > IPMC. > In this year's stats, Chukwa has more activities in comparison to Apache > Wink in both mailing list traffic and resolved jiras. Yet Chukwa has been > voted to discontinue by mentors, but Wink is voted to graduate by the same > mentor. Here are the number of mails showed up in dev list between Apache > Chukwa and Apache Wink: > > Chukka > > Nov 2012 > > 46 > > Oct 2012 > > 14 > > Sep 2012 > > 51 > > Aug 2012 > > 64 > > Jul 2012 > > 82 > > Jun 2012 > > 15 > > May 2012 > > 24 > > Apr 2012 > > 18 > > Mar 2012 > > 71 > > Feb 2012 > > 11 > > Jan 2012 > > 60 > Wink > > Nov 2012 > 18 > > Oct 2012 > 14 > > Sep 2012 > 2 > > Aug 2012 > 69 > > Jul 2012 > 5 > > May 2012 > 26 > > Apr 2012 > 24 > > Mar 2012 > 15 > > Feb 2012 > 21 > > Jan 2012 > 22 > > > And Incubation status shows: > > ChukwaIncubator2010-07-14865Falsegroup-1TrueTrue > 2012-09-10760,2,413 > 4True True > True True > True True > True True > WinkIncubator2009-05-271278Falsegroup-2TrueTrue > 2012-08-161010,4,616 > 3True True > True True > True True > True True > In both cases, the metrics shows similar activities for both projects. The > number of issues resolved or committed by Chukwa also exceeded Apache Wink > in the past 30 days. With respect to the voting result, but it leaves me > puzzled that why should Chukwa be retired. When there are contributors, > and there are activities for growth. > > regards, > Eric -- http://www.grobmeier.de https://www.timeandbill.de --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org