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From: Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 17:46:35 +0400
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Subject: Re: [VOTE] Retire Chukwa from incubation
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Let me rephrase the question. Could the actual reason behind Chukwa
retirement be related to the fact, that there exist Flume and Kafka
which gives users same opportunites to manage distributed systems? I
better understand this before trying to spread the word about joinging
Chukwa community.

If this is the case, could it be that there are ways to mergre
projects somehow, e.g. provide Chukwa API on the top of Flume or
Kafka?

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On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Alexei Fedotov
<alexei.fedotov@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello guys,
> I want to understand Chukwa community building strategy better. Are
> there any insights why companies which use Hadoop (in Moscow those
> include Deutche Bank, Yandex, Rambler and Microsoft) do not crowd
> around or stay in line to get a chance to use Chukwa?
>
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>
> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 3:55 PM, ant elder <ant.elder@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Benson Margulies <bimargulies@gmail.co=
m>wrote:
>>
>>> One interesting point about consensus decision-making process is the
>>> need to define the starting point. The process assumes that there is a
>>> clear 'status quo', and that a consensus is required to change it.
>>> This may not always be the appropriate way to think about retiring a
>>> podling, but it's clearly the way we're thinking about this one.
>>>
>>> Does anyone else feel that this could have benefitted from a [DISCUSS]
>>> before the [VOTE].
>>>
>>> At the bottom line, if there are new mentors to be fully responsible,
>>> I think it's reasonable to continue; however, I don't want to have
>>> exactly the same conversation in N months. Would the new mentors like
>>> to propose a time limit, and is the group willing to subscribe to the
>>> notion that, if after that time, the new mentors have the same report
>>> as the old mentors, we're at the end?
>>>
>>>
>> Could we maybe include a time limit next month with the credible plan to
>> give new mentors a little time to get up to speed with the project?
>>
>>    ...ant

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