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Subject: What constitute a successful project?
From: Eric Yang <eric818@gmail.com>
To: chukwa-dev@incubator.apache.org, Incubator <general@incubator.apache.org>
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Hi IPMC,

For the past two years, Chukwa has been labelled as non-active project by
mentors, and has been put on votes for retiring this project by mentor and
IPMC.
In this year's stats, Chukwa has more activities in comparison to Apache
Wink in both mailing list traffic and resolved jiras.  Yet Chukwa has been
voted to discontinue by mentors, but Wink is voted to graduate  by the same
mentor. Here are the number of mails showed up in dev list between Apache
Chukwa and Apache Wink:

Chukka

  Nov 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-chukwa-dev/201211.mbox/thread>

46

Oct 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-chukwa-dev/201210.mbox/thread>

14

Sep 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-chukwa-dev/201209.mbox/thread>

51

Aug 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-chukwa-dev/201208.mbox/thread>

64

Jul 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-chukwa-dev/201207.mbox/thread>

82

Jun 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-chukwa-dev/201206.mbox/thread>

15

May 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-chukwa-dev/201205.mbox/thread>

24

Apr 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-chukwa-dev/201204.mbox/thread>

18

Mar 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-chukwa-dev/201203.mbox/thread>

71

Feb 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-chukwa-dev/201202.mbox/thread>

11

Jan 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-chukwa-dev/201201.mbox/thread>

60
  Wink

Nov 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-wink-dev/201211.mbox/thread>
 18

Oct 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-wink-dev/201210.mbox/thread>
 14

Sep 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-wink-dev/201209.mbox/thread>
 2

Aug 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-wink-dev/201208.mbox/thread>
 69

Jul 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-wink-dev/201207.mbox/thread>
 5

May 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-wink-dev/201205.mbox/thread>
 26

Apr 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-wink-dev/201204.mbox/thread>
 24

Mar 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-wink-dev/201203.mbox/thread>
 15

Feb 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-wink-dev/201202.mbox/thread>
 21

Jan 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-wink-dev/201201.mbox/thread>
 22


And Incubation status shows:

ChukwaIncubator2010-07-14865Falsegroup-1TrueTrue<http://incubator.apache.org/projects/chukwa.html>
2012-09-10760,2,413<http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#chukwa>
4True <https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/chukwa/>True<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CHUKWA>
True <http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-chukwa-dev/>True<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-chukwa-commits/>
True <http://incubator.apache.org/chukwa/>True<http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/incubator/chukwa/>
True <http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/chukwa/KEYS>True<http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/incubator/chukwa/>
WinkIncubator2009-05-271278Falsegroup-2TrueTrue<http://incubator.apache.org/projects/wink.html>
2012-08-161010,4,616<http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#wink>
3True <https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/wink>True<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/wink>
True <http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-wink-dev/>True<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-wink-commits/>
True <http://incubator.apache.org/wink/>True<http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/incubator/wink/>
True <http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/wink/KEYS>True<http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/incubator/wink/>
In both cases, the metrics shows similar activities for both projects. The
number of issues resolved or committed by Chukwa also exceeded Apache Wink
in the past 30 days.  With respect to the voting result, but it leaves me
puzzled that why should Chukwa be retired.  When there are contributors,
and there are activities for growth.

regards,
Eric

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