Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C075CDFCB for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 02:49:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 11046 invoked by uid 500); 5 Nov 2012 02:49:09 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 10640 invoked by uid 500); 5 Nov 2012 02:49:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 10606 invoked by uid 99); 5 Nov 2012 02:49:07 -0000 Received: from minotaur.apache.org (HELO minotaur.apache.org) (140.211.11.9) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 02:49:07 +0000 Received: from localhost (HELO mail-oa0-f47.google.com) (127.0.0.1) (smtp-auth username cdouglas, mechanism plain) by minotaur.apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 02:49:07 +0000 Received: by mail-oa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id h1so5191503oag.6 for ; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 18:49:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.218.37 with SMTP id pd5mr6800705obc.24.1352083746422; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 18:49:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.209.10 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 18:49:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 18:49:06 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Anticipating my reign of terror -- new idea for December From: Chris Douglas To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +1; this matches my understanding. -C On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > My understanding of mentor sign off is that all active mentors sign off, > not just one. Lack of sign off means the mentor has been busy elsewhere for > that quarter and feels unqualified to signoff. > > So,whilst looking for absent mentors is good I'd suggest we already have a > process in place and thus dont need more process. We simply, as an IPMC, > need to use the existing process as (at least I feel) it was intended. > > Ross > > Sent from my tablet > On Nov 4, 2012 10:30 PM, "Benson Margulies" wrote: > >> I want to thank all of you for the vote(s) of confidence in recommending me >> as the IPMC chair. While it's always possible that the Board will decline >> the suggestion, it doesn't seem too terribly presumptuous to start looking >> ahead. >> >> My goal is to continue along the path blazed by Jukka, and then, like him, >> hand over. So, set your egg-timers for a bit more than a year, and think, >> please, about stepping up. >> >> I think that the shepherd system has worked well. At the same time, I think >> that it was invented to compensate for a problem, and that we could make >> additional progress toward resolving that problem. >> >> Why do we have shepherds? Because we have had mentors who have found it >> impractical to exercise detailed supervision on the podlings. Our job as an >> entire PMC is to supervise the podlings. It seems logical to me that the >> mentors of each podling would provide that supervision. Of course, things >> happen. Shepherds have been helping to detect holes and compensate for >> those things. >> >> With this idea in mind, for December, I do not want to eliminate shepherds. >> But I want to float a proposal that might, over time, help us stop needing >> them. >> >> At the bottom of the template for each podling's report, I'd like to have a >> space for each of the mentors, every month, to reaffirm his or her >> involvement in the podling. Thus, instead of (at most) one mentor signing >> off on the report, itself, we'd get a reading on how many mentors are in >> the game. If the number were less than 3 -- and -- especially, if it were >> less than one, we'd be alerted and could make it a priority to find >> replacements. >> >> What do you think? >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org