Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CF410E1F6 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:55:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 79577 invoked by uid 500); 26 Nov 2012 14:55:10 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 79284 invoked by uid 500); 26 Nov 2012 14:55:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 79266 invoked by uid 99); 26 Nov 2012 14:55:09 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:55:09 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_SOFTFAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: softfail (nike.apache.org: transitioning domain of list@toolazydogs.com does not designate 209.85.160.47 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.160.47] (HELO mail-pb0-f47.google.com) (209.85.160.47) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:54:59 +0000 Received: by mail-pb0-f47.google.com with SMTP id un1so5787660pbc.6 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 06:54:38 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=two6UH5uUmIT1eWXyjsG5l+Cnp5llvecFItSu53YHz8=; b=Ra0Yxb+QEwzYe6/SL1KSFfLCaVb7MdqvQFyjfEqCmLgyqn9EV1GDjhHBdiJnRhiAA6 WdrvY6KG5Md/5vKW2Af0MXqTHOuqTtspZJWe9WXdv/v3oV9VNsNjyrkJkqqT6MOYZPtc 0HxcgvoI++8mF2Q5uYueBvDIF5baBFacZpp0nSbliTc8OMN+v0LtCse8tXMLd3dHb+cF 6uVvG6QTxDao5nxHnOwttwWjalUCSzqWt2IUufOy+FKjPALvzht/1nS9Yc81dMktpWCt ZfuOEC+IUo33sISXEf/FhQ90D8hx00QfI+XhhMMWuxssGe2NxfGJUkTFGd63XdSqhGhd H8Kw== Received: by 10.68.189.233 with SMTP id gl9mr37725988pbc.166.1353941678611; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 06:54:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (c-76-103-244-129.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. [76.103.244.129]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ok3sm8894803pbb.11.2012.11.26.06.54.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 26 Nov 2012 06:54:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: What constitute a successful project? Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Alan Cabrera In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 06:54:35 -0800 Cc: chukwa-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1AF3C493-30E0-4D67-AAD0-E2CB0A319F98@toolazydogs.com> References: To: general@incubator.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlR/bAKefvUytMqovgG/iDqKF3eBwK3Qn/AwUudo4meqVNwecXyK87yrhRy/DX43W8vcjMx X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Nov 25, 2012, at 7:33 PM, Eric Yang wrote: > Hi IPMC, >=20 > For the past two years, Chukwa has been labelled as non-active project = by > mentors, and has been put on votes for retiring this project by mentor = and > IPMC. > In this year's stats, Chukwa has more activities in comparison to = Apache > Wink in both mailing list traffic and resolved jiras. Yet Chukwa has = been > voted to discontinue by mentors, but Wink is voted to graduate by the = same > mentor. Here are the number of mails showed up in dev list between = Apache > Chukwa and Apache Wink: Since I am the mentor that started the retirement vote on the podling I = will explain my perspective. What it comes down to is actual diverse activity. For me, the = overwhelming bulk of the work for Chukwa was being done by one person. = While looking at the raw numbers the two projects seem similar, if you = scrub the threads where we discuss whether or not to retire Chukwa and = also look at who's doing the actual work, it seems to me that the two = projects are not exactly the same. Regards, Alan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org