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Subject: Re: Retirement decision making
From: Alan Cabrera <list@toolazydogs.com>
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Hence my idea to do away with the rule of thumb and stick to at least =
one responsible PMC member.

What problem are we trying to avoid by having this activity/diversity =
boundary?


Regards,
Alan


On Nov 29, 2012, at 4:52 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:

> Hard cases make bad law. The rough parameters of the recent 'small
> graduates' was that they had around 5 initial PMC members, and some
> detectable evidence that all of them were in the reasonably regular
> habit of contributing code, let alone voting for releases. If we
> insist on testing the absolute lower limit of viability, we're may
> bump into the absurd.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Andy Seaborne <andy@apache.org> =
wrote:
>> On 29/11/12 14:53, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
>>>=20
>>> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Alan Cabrera <list@toolazydogs.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>> ... Would you also add the three or more active PMC members =
requirement?
>>>> What constitutes active?...
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> IMO the bare minimum is being able to find three PMC members to vote
>>> on things when needed.
>>>=20
>>> Once a project gets below this limit it's in trouble and usually
>>> headed for the attic, but that's not the only possibility - see
>>> "Resolution to reboot the Apache Xalan PMC" at
>>>=20
>>> =
http://www.apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/2011/board_minutes_2011_0=
7_20.txt
>>> for example.
>>=20
>>=20
>> I think we need to be a bit careful about graduating a podling that =
is a
>> minimum viable project.  That's not say it shouldn't be done but if =
it's
>> minimal, and looks ropey, then we're aren't doing us or them any =
favours if
>> the project looks likely to get into problems quite soon.  After all,
>> graduation itself requires project resource.
>>=20
>>        Andy
>>=20
>>=20
>>>=20
>>> -Bertrand
>>>=20
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