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From Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: What constitute a successful project?
Date Mon, 26 Nov 2012 08:57:16 GMT
Actually there is activity. Only in September 2 new committers joined.
Looking at SVN, there is activity too:
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/chukwa/trunk/src/main/java/org/apache/hadoop/chukwa/

Unfortunately the most active committer - if not the only one - is Eric.

For me (others may correct me) a successful incubator project is one
which manages to build up a community around it. While it seems that
Chukwa aims at it:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-chukwa-dev/201209.mbox/%3CCAFk14gt_8bwOZ3=2bMMKsjMPfTOVh2_S+ncRYA3By9Yo4hZ+uw@mail.gmail.com%3E

the project has not managed to get a momentum.

On the other hand, I saw in the private archives that some legal
restrictions have been resolved.

Question:

How does the Chukwa project want to build up a new community?

Personally - if there is a plan and interest to make community work
(however that looks like) - I would be open to leave Chukwa a little
longer in incubation. Esp. because it seems that committers can now
work more freely on it.

Maybe we can make up some kind of deadline?

Cheers
Christian


On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:33 AM, Eric Yang <eric818@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi IPMC,
>
> For the past two years, Chukwa has been labelled as non-active project by
> mentors, and has been put on votes for retiring this project by mentor and
> IPMC.
> In this year's stats, Chukwa has more activities in comparison to Apache
> Wink in both mailing list traffic and resolved jiras.  Yet Chukwa has been
> voted to discontinue by mentors, but Wink is voted to graduate  by the same
> mentor. Here are the number of mails showed up in dev list between Apache
> Chukwa and Apache Wink:
>
> Chukka
>
>   Nov 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-chukwa-dev/201211.mbox/thread>
>
> 46
>
> Oct 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-chukwa-dev/201210.mbox/thread>
>
> 14
>
> Sep 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-chukwa-dev/201209.mbox/thread>
>
> 51
>
> Aug 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-chukwa-dev/201208.mbox/thread>
>
> 64
>
> Jul 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-chukwa-dev/201207.mbox/thread>
>
> 82
>
> Jun 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-chukwa-dev/201206.mbox/thread>
>
> 15
>
> May 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-chukwa-dev/201205.mbox/thread>
>
> 24
>
> Apr 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-chukwa-dev/201204.mbox/thread>
>
> 18
>
> Mar 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-chukwa-dev/201203.mbox/thread>
>
> 71
>
> Feb 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-chukwa-dev/201202.mbox/thread>
>
> 11
>
> Jan 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-chukwa-dev/201201.mbox/thread>
>
> 60
>   Wink
>
> Nov 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-wink-dev/201211.mbox/thread>
>  18
>
> Oct 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-wink-dev/201210.mbox/thread>
>  14
>
> Sep 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-wink-dev/201209.mbox/thread>
>  2
>
> Aug 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-wink-dev/201208.mbox/thread>
>  69
>
> Jul 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-wink-dev/201207.mbox/thread>
>  5
>
> May 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-wink-dev/201205.mbox/thread>
>  26
>
> Apr 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-wink-dev/201204.mbox/thread>
>  24
>
> Mar 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-wink-dev/201203.mbox/thread>
>  15
>
> Feb 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-wink-dev/201202.mbox/thread>
>  21
>
> Jan 2012<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-wink-dev/201201.mbox/thread>
>  22
>
>
> And Incubation status shows:
>
> ChukwaIncubator2010-07-14865Falsegroup-1TrueTrue<http://incubator.apache.org/projects/chukwa.html>
> 2012-09-10760,2,413<http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#chukwa>
> 4True <https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/chukwa/>True<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CHUKWA>
> True <http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-chukwa-dev/>True<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-chukwa-commits/>
> True <http://incubator.apache.org/chukwa/>True<http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/incubator/chukwa/>
> True <http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/chukwa/KEYS>True<http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/incubator/chukwa/>
> WinkIncubator2009-05-271278Falsegroup-2TrueTrue<http://incubator.apache.org/projects/wink.html>
> 2012-08-161010,4,616<http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#wink>
> 3True <https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/wink>True<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/wink>
> True <http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-wink-dev/>True<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-wink-commits/>
> True <http://incubator.apache.org/wink/>True<http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/incubator/wink/>
> True <http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/wink/KEYS>True<http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/incubator/wink/>
> In both cases, the metrics shows similar activities for both projects. The
> number of issues resolved or committed by Chukwa also exceeded Apache Wink
> in the past 30 days.  With respect to the voting result, but it leaves me
> puzzled that why should Chukwa be retired.  When there are contributors,
> and there are activities for growth.
>
> regards,
> Eric



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