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From Ross Gardler <>
Subject Sub-projects - when are they acceptable? (was Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany)
Date Tue, 20 Nov 2012 11:28:54 GMT
On 20 November 2012 11:18, Benson Margulies <> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 3:01 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
> <> wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 6:41 AM, Luciano Resende <> wrote:
>>> ...Nuvem has a great synergy with Apache Tuscany, and after
>>> discussion between the two projects, we are seeking IPMC approval to allow
>>> graduation of Apache Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany....
>> Can you clarify what this means? Do all members of the Nuvem PPMC
>> become Tuscany PMC members?
> Bertrand, this is a great opportunity to clarify the board's attitude
> toward 'subprojects'. Ever since the campaign to dismantle umbrellas,
> I've been confused about what structures the board would find
> reasonable.

I don't speak for the board, but my opinion is that if a sub-project
is OK as long as it is actively managed by the same PMC as the parent

Where I start to get worried is when a sub-project takes on a life of
its own and significant portions of the parent PMC are not interested
in the sub-project and thus fail to provide appropriate oversight. The
more sub-projects there are in a project the more likely this is to

I'm interested to hear if this is also the opinion of others and thus
I've changed the subject. In terms of Nuvem I'm interested in the
answer to Bertrands question.


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