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From Ross Gardler <rgard...@opendirective.com>
Subject Re: Retirement decision making
Date Fri, 30 Nov 2012 09:27:48 GMT
On 30 November 2012 00:52, Benson Margulies <bimargulies@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hard cases make bad law. The rough parameters of the recent 'small
> graduates' was that they had around 5 initial PMC members, and some
> detectable evidence that all of them were in the reasonably regular
> habit of contributing code, let alone voting for releases. If we
> insist on testing the absolute lower limit of viability, we're may
> bump into the absurd.
>

+1 (where "reasonably regular habit of contributing code" should be
"reasonably regular habit of contributing in some way" - that is only being
active in PMC duties would be fine, need not be active committer, as long
as it is responsible activity (i.e. voting from an informed position)

Ross


>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Andy Seaborne <andy@apache.org> wrote:
> > On 29/11/12 14:53, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Alan Cabrera <list@toolazydogs.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ... Would you also add the three or more active PMC members
> requirement?
> >>> What constitutes active?...
> >>
> >>
> >> IMO the bare minimum is being able to find three PMC members to vote
> >> on things when needed.
> >>
> >> Once a project gets below this limit it's in trouble and usually
> >> headed for the attic, but that's not the only possibility - see
> >> "Resolution to reboot the Apache Xalan PMC" at
> >>
> >>
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/2011/board_minutes_2011_07_20.txt
> >> for example.
> >
> >
> > I think we need to be a bit careful about graduating a podling that is a
> > minimum viable project.  That's not say it shouldn't be done but if it's
> > minimal, and looks ropey, then we're aren't doing us or them any favours
> if
> > the project looks likely to get into problems quite soon.  After all,
> > graduation itself requires project resource.
> >
> >         Andy
> >
> >
> >>
> >> -Bertrand
> >>
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Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
Programme Leader (Open Development)
OpenDirective http://opendirective.com

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