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From Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedo...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Sub-projects - when are they acceptable? (was Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany)
Date Tue, 20 Nov 2012 12:03:24 GMT
This is good point of view.

I think one may also take a user cases and product distribution
perspectives into account. For example, when both projects naturally come
in one binary release, this may be feasible to have them joined.

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On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Ross Gardler <rgardler@opendirective.com>wrote:

> On 20 November 2012 11:18, Benson Margulies <bimargulies@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 3:01 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
> > <bdelacretaz@apache.org> wrote:
> >> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 6:41 AM, Luciano Resende <luckbr1975@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> ...Nuvem has a great synergy with Apache Tuscany, and after
> >>> discussion between the two projects, we are seeking IPMC approval to
> allow
> >>> graduation of Apache Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany....
> >>
> >> Can you clarify what this means? Do all members of the Nuvem PPMC
> >> become Tuscany PMC members?
> >
> > Bertrand, this is a great opportunity to clarify the board's attitude
> > toward 'subprojects'. Ever since the campaign to dismantle umbrellas,
> > I've been confused about what structures the board would find
> > reasonable.
>
> I don't speak for the board, but my opinion is that if a sub-project
> is OK as long as it is actively managed by the same PMC as the parent
> project.
>
> Where I start to get worried is when a sub-project takes on a life of
> its own and significant portions of the parent PMC are not interested
> in the sub-project and thus fail to provide appropriate oversight. The
> more sub-projects there are in a project the more likely this is to
> happen.
>
> I'm interested to hear if this is also the opinion of others and thus
> I've changed the subject. In terms of Nuvem I'm interested in the
> answer to Bertrands question.
>
> Ross
>
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