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From Eric Yang <eric...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: What constitute a successful project?
Date Wed, 28 Nov 2012 07:12:07 GMT
Continue the retirement vote, and see if it passes in IPMC.  If it does, I
will gladly setup shop in github.  If it doesn't, Chukwa community should
prepare for Chukwa 0.6.0 release, and start voting on Chukwa 0.6.0 release,
and follow by vote for graduation.  Content in Chukwa trunk contains a
number of good features and fixes generated by the community.  I really
appreciate the support by Incubator community to make this possible.  Does
this sound like a plan?

regards,
Eric


On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Alan Cabrera <list@toolazydogs.com> wrote:

>
> On Nov 27, 2012, at 9:41 PM, Eric Yang wrote:
>
> > <snip/>
>
> The various comparisons are distractions.  Let's focus on Chukwa and what
> can be done.
>
> > If we are going to move forward, more time in incubation is not a
> realistic
> > option.  The only way is vote for graduation and avoid the vicious cycle
> of
> > closing the project review.
>
> If there's an Incubator policy change that I don't know about I'm happy to
> hear it and reconsider my personal opinion.  If someone wants to change
> Incubator policy I'm happy to discuss it.  Can you not see by my message
> below that I am not intransigent but am willing to discuss all manner of
> things?
>
> I would focus more on the Chukwa project and not spend so much time on
> comparing it to other projects nor making ugly innuendoes.  Look around
> you.  You are surrounded by a community who wants to help.
>
>
> Regards,
> Alan
>
> > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 7:32 AM, Alan Cabrera <list@toolazydogs.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On Nov 27, 2012, at 7:16 AM, ant elder wrote:
> >>
> >>> Unless there are compelling reason to stop, i.e continuing breaches of
> >>> basic ASF polices and principles, then where possible letting a
> poddling
> >>> continue incubation or just graduate seems better to me than making
> them
> >> go
> >>> elsewhere. Its not like a small slow problem is chewing up ASF
> resources,
> >>> but i understand not everyone here agrees with my views on that. Wink
> is
> >> an
> >>> example of poddling in similar circumstances and there we are about to
> >> have
> >>> decided that graduation is better than retirement. Perhaps thats a
> better
> >>> approach. I don't recall a graduation recommendation request from the
> >>> Incubator has ever been rejected by the board so perhaps the Incubator
> is
> >>> too conservative with graduation recommendations.
> >>>
> >>> Its interesting comparing Wink and Chukwa. From many perspectives
> Chukwa
> >> is
> >>> much more active than Wink but we're about to graduate Wink and talking
> >>> about retiring this one. I've not yet had a chance to go through all
> the
> >>> Chukwa archives but unless i'm misunderstanding something Chukwa isn't
> >> just
> >>> a lone coder, there have been several committers in the last months and
> >>> while one is doing the majority of the commits many of those are
> actually
> >>> applying patches from other people, so it looks like there are a bunch
> of
> >>> people out there working on the project and we need to find ways of
> >> better
> >>> integrating them into the poddling community.
> >>
> >> This is an interesting line of reasoning worth pursuing, IMO.  If Chukwa
> >> and Wink are actually on a par with each other we should see if it make
> >> sense to apply the same reasoning about Wink to Chukwa.
> >>
> >> Are we implicitly having a policy change with podlings, if so, should we
> >> make it explicit?
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Alan
> >>
> >>
>
>
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