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From Nandana Mihindukulasooriya <nandana....@gmail.com>
Subject Re: What constitute a successful project?
Date Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:49:47 GMT
Hi,

On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 7:20 AM, Bernd Fondermann <
bernd.fondermann@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:25 AM, Jukka Zitting <jukka.zitting@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> This is exactly what we did for the last months (years, actually).
> Give it yet more time.
> Honestly, I don't understand why we should continue in this mode "for
> another few months" when it failed for the past years.
> Is this the extra-bonus IPMC time


Thinking in general not on this specific case, may be we can define a
formal warning for retirement for podlings where the PPMC has to come up
with a concrete plans for the next six months and some measurable goals.
Once the formal warning is issued, it can be processed by the clutch [1]
and also show the elapsed time. In 3 months, 6 months, 9 months mentors and
IPMC can decide whether to remove the warning or not. After one year, if
there is no significant change and the goals are not archived, IPMC can
easily decide in favor of retirement because they know the history of the
issue. At the same time, every three months until retirement PPMC will be
notified that they are still under the warning (I think this is somewhat
happening even now, as I've seen from Jukka's replies to the board
reports), so they will have reasonable time to take action. Of course, we
don't need a process like this in the case of the PPMC unanimously agree
for retirement.

Best Regards,
Nandana

[1] - http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html

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