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From Roman Shaposhnik <...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Anticipating my reign of terror -- new idea for December
Date Mon, 05 Nov 2012 03:20:13 GMT
On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Benson Margulies <bimargulies@gmail.com> wrote:
> I want to thank all of you for the vote(s) of confidence in recommending me
> as the IPMC chair. While it's always possible that the Board will decline
> the suggestion, it doesn't seem too terribly presumptuous to start looking
> ahead.
>
> My goal is to continue along the path blazed by Jukka, and then, like him,
> hand over. So, set your egg-timers for a bit more than a year, and think,
> please, about stepping up.
>
> I think that the shepherd system has worked well. At the same time, I think
> that it was invented to compensate for a problem, and that we could make
> additional progress toward resolving that problem.
>
> Why do we have shepherds? Because we have had mentors who have found it
> impractical to exercise detailed supervision on the podlings. Our job as an
> entire PMC is to supervise the podlings. It seems logical to me that the
> mentors of each podling would provide that supervision. Of course, things
> happen. Shepherds have been helping to detect holes and compensate for
> those things.
>
> With this idea in mind, for December, I do not want to eliminate shepherds.
> But I want to float a proposal that might, over time, help us stop needing
> them.
>
> At the bottom of the template for each podling's report, I'd like to have a
> space for each of the mentors, every month, to reaffirm his or her
> involvement in the podling. Thus, instead of (at most) one mentor signing
> off on the report, itself, we'd get a reading on how many mentors are in
> the game. If the number were less than 3 -- and -- especially, if it were
> less than one, we'd be alerted and could make it a priority to find
> replacements.
>
> What do you think?

+1 on the general idea.

Personally, I believe that anything that simplifies the structure of
the incubation
process is a good thing.

On that same note -- my current understanding is that the mentor assignment is
pretty permanent for the duration of the incubation -- if that's
indeed the case,
perhaps having a more fluid process of mentor checking out and stepping up
to help a project would also help us have a more positive experience for the
poddlings.

IOW, for any other TLP there's a presumption that a single PMC (or committer)
can have a certain amount of down time when, for whatever reason, they may
completely go dark as far project involvement is concerned. I'm not sure there's
such an option for a mentor.

Thanks,
Roman.

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