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From Alan Cabrera <l...@toolazydogs.com>
Subject Re: Retirement decision making
Date Fri, 30 Nov 2012 03:18:08 GMT
Hence my idea to do away with the rule of thumb and stick to at least one responsible PMC member.

What problem are we trying to avoid by having this activity/diversity boundary?


Regards,
Alan


On Nov 29, 2012, at 4:52 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:

> Hard cases make bad law. The rough parameters of the recent 'small
> graduates' was that they had around 5 initial PMC members, and some
> detectable evidence that all of them were in the reasonably regular
> habit of contributing code, let alone voting for releases. If we
> insist on testing the absolute lower limit of viability, we're may
> bump into the absurd.
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Andy Seaborne <andy@apache.org> wrote:
>> On 29/11/12 14:53, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Alan Cabrera <list@toolazydogs.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ... Would you also add the three or more active PMC members requirement?
>>>> What constitutes active?...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> IMO the bare minimum is being able to find three PMC members to vote
>>> on things when needed.
>>> 
>>> Once a project gets below this limit it's in trouble and usually
>>> headed for the attic, but that's not the only possibility - see
>>> "Resolution to reboot the Apache Xalan PMC" at
>>> 
>>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/2011/board_minutes_2011_07_20.txt
>>> for example.
>> 
>> 
>> I think we need to be a bit careful about graduating a podling that is a
>> minimum viable project.  That's not say it shouldn't be done but if it's
>> minimal, and looks ropey, then we're aren't doing us or them any favours if
>> the project looks likely to get into problems quite soon.  After all,
>> graduation itself requires project resource.
>> 
>>        Andy
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> -Bertrand
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