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(127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Oct 2012 17:20:49 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.1 \(1498\)) Subject: Re: [VOTE] [IP clearance] OpenDDR resources file donation to DeviceMap podling From: Andrus Adamchik In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 20:18:40 +0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <5475EA2F-BD2E-45BC-9248-F46877B0AF9F@objectstyle.org> To: general@incubator.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1498) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Ok, fair enough. My goal was to make everyone aware of the nastiness = surrounding wurfl.xml, and that goal is hereby achieved :)=20 Now let's concentrate on the IP evaluation process. Here is my +1 for = this vote.=20 Andrus On Sep 28, 2012, at 9:25 PM, Benson Margulies = wrote: > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Andrus Adamchik = wrote: >> Hi Bertrand, >>=20 >> OpenDDR combining forces with DeviceMap is great news! And having the = resource file will make it very useful immediately. >>=20 >> Regarding this vote.. While the original wurfl.xml was clearly open = source, and I am going to cast a positive vote to accept it in = DeviceMap, I am fairly certain that once we do that and start releasing = it, we'll hear from Scientiamobile trolls. So is Incubator PMC an = appropriate body to decide on this risk? Should the Board get involved? >=20 > I don't think that the IPMC or the board is interested in a troll > analysis. What we need here, as always, is a grant that satisfies both > the legal grant of a license and the Foundation's requirement for a > clear, voluntary, grant. >=20 >>=20 >> (You are a Board member yourself of course :)) >>=20 >> Andrus >>=20 >>=20 >> On Sep 28, 2012, at 6:21 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz = wrote: >>> Hi, >>>=20 >>> IP clearance usually works by lazy consensus, but in this case I'd >>> like an explicit vote, as the donation described at [0] includes = data >>> that when hosted on Github has caused a DMCA takedown request [1] to >>> which OpenDDR responded [2]. >>>=20 >>> I guess from our point of view the decision is whether the donation = of >>> that data can be considered voluntary, as the ownership of the >>> original data is somewhat unclear. The header of the original data >>> file [2] states that "the information listed here has been collected >>> by many different people from many different countries", but in [1] = a >>> copyright on that data is asserted. >>>=20 >>> The code parts of the OpenDDR donation are not affected, so I'd like >>> Incubator PMC members to vote as follows: >>>=20 >>> [ ] +1, accept the OpenDDR donation including the >>> OpenDDR-Resources_1.0.0.10.zip data >>> [ ] -1, do not accept the OpenDDR-Resources_1.0.0.10.zip (but the >>> other parts are ok) >>>=20 >>> IMO the alternative, if we don't accept the resources part of the >>> donation, is to ask OpenDDR to come up with a resources file that >>> contains only their own original work. >>>=20 >>> The vote is open for at least 72 hours (will leave it open a bit = more >>> due to TGIF). >>>=20 >>> -Bertrand (DeviceMap mentor) >>>=20 >>> [0] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/devicemap-openddr.html >>> [1] = https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2012-01-04-scientiamobile.markd= own >>> [2] http://openddr.org/takedown.html (looks down right now, Google >>> cache at http://s.apache.org/openddr_cache just in case) >>>=20 >>> = --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org >>=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org >=20 >=20 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org