Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 03E0EDAC9 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:11:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 66232 invoked by uid 500); 16 Oct 2012 14:11:21 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 66019 invoked by uid 500); 16 Oct 2012 14:11:20 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 65986 invoked by uid 99); 16 Oct 2012 14:11:20 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:11:20 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of nslater@tumbolia.org designates 209.85.210.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.210.175] (HELO mail-ia0-f175.google.com) (209.85.210.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:11:14 +0000 Received: by mail-ia0-f175.google.com with SMTP id b35so4548216iac.6 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 07:10:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tumbolia.org; s=google; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=i3jV9mm1Ot1O9H92ujr/okQGXPsBN8QZFOr6TeIfUOY=; b=aKURrQnDt3Pzoytdn+E7qMHOQyOvOeBE2qrlAlPwBKbrZOzllL4Eik8lJFBMaWs0ep 2290CoAnLmpv46ZM2EKkPvJ+80xzjTkzatbg4O0Tw0Yd1m7usVa3p1mLib2bQxEOB2I1 6wKR/OhEIAtZfSIAmbB0UcsethAXfvFxOMrso= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=i3jV9mm1Ot1O9H92ujr/okQGXPsBN8QZFOr6TeIfUOY=; b=Ta1/lGNSYwMzs0k4kk/ufHr9DMzea5vxQth5SKVKhZoU/1v5WG5cIIEqqGhszAOd11 IX7P8dSJxvP9F+HlQN8PGy+6khzEs5KpIGSCw4Ab9jDDZc+LzJ2S/eC/vyzUfm3dsSOz Y8HsT1XlU70omZfgk9t3n1hnO3qwUqSnfGj3mOMlT/yfyufUjXKIWw0B0BnikXdCkRFW 3yr/vqUmujxe+9YF3CYFxZ5ao+4+R9mDrla9u8TFZKxB+Qgv0g/vdIKCq2EUjyY8THWy KyZaFHnFOoUHZNDIGs2JaTu3M4WVs8/ztwKp2LXPD97fMNhVlwy+iOgdsYRJTpx4XDn0 dhOQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.178.106 with SMTP id cx10mr12254557igc.24.1350396653893; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 07:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.63.19 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 07:10:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [178.250.115.206] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 15:10:53 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: key signing From: Noah Slater To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f5036c8dc785904cc2db89e X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmg0iNDbogSp9Tfma+uloxcAFW3J0YXLG53v5EPpdoRDrPjdd/Sa3iFMCSzoVCUU40HkjO8 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --e89a8f5036c8dc785904cc2db89e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It had to be done, given this thread's epic proportions... ;) [image: Identity] http://xkcd.com/1121/ On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > I'm offering this discussion here, but it might need to go elsewhere > if it goes anywhere at all. > > It seems to me that the there is a gap in the incubation process, and > I don't know how to fill it. > > As far as I can see, we don't do anything to facilitate or encourage > getting PGP keys signed. We tell people to create a key and put it in > the SVN 'keys' file. > > Key signing strikes me as a bit of a conundrum for us. In all other > respects, we emphasize that anyone, anywhere, in any time zone, can be > a full member of a community. However, key signing requires something > else. [1] Generally, it requires a face-to-face interaction. > > It is perhaps interesting to note that the foundation accepts CLAs as > legally binding without any face-to-face identity verification. If you > send in a CLA with a signature, we believe it, and we believe that the > email address you provide is, in fact, controlled by the legal person > who signed the form. > > I wonder, then, if secretary@ should be willing to sign a key. > Alternatively, since the chain is CLA -> svn access -> unsigned key in > svn, perhaps all we really need is to document that a signature > corresponding to a key in svn is really good enough, and users need > not be concerned further. > > > > [1]: http://httpd.apache.org/dev/verification.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > -- NS --e89a8f5036c8dc785904cc2db89e--