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From "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Hadoop Development Tools
Date Thu, 18 Oct 2012 20:37:49 GMT
+1 to giving it a chance at Apache. I'm not sure what Extras buys this effort and I for one
am not really interested in helping it there but am sincerely willing to try while it's at
the ASF.

Cheers,
Chris

On Oct 18, 2012, at 12:57 PM, Chris Douglas wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Jakob Homan <jghoman@gmail.com> wrote:
>> This seems like it might be more at home at apache-extras.
> 
> That may ultimately be its fate, but building a community around these
> tools is worthy of an attempt. This also shares many goals with
> MRUnit. Collaboration or even merging with that community could also
> make sense. The code is dead in its current home; letting someone run
> with it here to see where it leads seems reasonable.
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Adam Berry <amberry@yahoo-inc.com> wrote:
>>> I will update the proposal later on to include that, and additionally some idea
of how we could support streaming from within the IDE.
> 
> Seems out of scope. The goal of the project, as I gathered from the
> proposal, is to produce tools and plugins that complement development
> of (and on) Hadoop. There's no need to specify which features the
> community intends to build at this stage. -C
> 
>>> Great comments though folks, keep 'em coming!
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Adam
>>> 
>>> On Oct 18, 2012, at 10:53 AM, Simone Gianni wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I think it's a good idea, I used the old stuff at the time and it is
>>>> something that is missing.
>>>> 
>>>> 2012/10/18 Steve Loughran <steve.loughran@gmail.com>
>>>> 
>>>>> it may be good to have a proposal that is broader than just eclipse;
gives
>>>>> you flexibility in future even if the initial target is the eclipse plugin.
>>>>> Certainly "Hadoop Development Tools" is pretty broad
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Steve you are right, but I'm afraid that given how the Eclipse framework
>>>> requires tight coupling with Eclipse stuff (SWT, workbench system etc..)
>>>> it's not easy to develop something that can easily be reused on different
>>>> platforms.
>>>> 
>>>> However, it could be possible to distribute a stand alone RCP application
>>>> for those not using Eclipse, and eventually try to implement a "generic
>>>> Hadoop-UI bridge", as far as possible agnostic of specific Eclipse classes
>>>> and interfaces, that could eventually be reused for other IDEs.
>>>> 
>>>> Simone
>>> 
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