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From Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Shipping binary file in CloudStack release
Date Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:01:41 GMT
On 29 October 2012 14:48, Chip Childers <chip.childers@sungard.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:
> > Thanks for following up Chip. Though I do just want to clarify one
> > misconception.
> >
> > On 29 October 2012 13:21, Chip Childers <chip.childers@sungard.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I actually have more than enough votes right now to close the thread
> >> out on the project's dev list, and open up a vote for the IPMC.
> >
> >
> > No you don't.
> >
> > To me, this sounds like you're saying "to be honest, I could just close
> the
> > vote and ship this right now if I wanted to." I'm not sure if that was
> the
> > intended message.
>
> Nope, that's not what I was saying.  That's taking a single comment
> out of the context of the larger email.


Well, in fairness, that is how I understood it *within* the context of your
entire email. I hope you don't think I was just looking for something to
take out of context to disagree with you on? I think we know each other
better than that by now! ;)



> > But regardless, you couldn't. A single -1 vote would be
> > enough to block the release. Binding or not binding. It doesn't matter.
> If
> > somebody expresses a real, and justified, concern about the artefact,
> then
> > you don't release until you've addressed that concern.
>
> If that's true, then should the release policy [1] be updated?
>
> [1] http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#approving-a-release


Perhaps.

I know I started out RMing with the idea that I just needed to collect more
+1 votes than -1 votes. But I think that's broken in practice. I think if
you have a valid, justified, -1 vote, and you release without addressing
it, then there is something SERIOUSLY wrong.

-- 
NS

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