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From Ross Gardler <rgard...@opendirective.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Jr. Mentor role
Date Mon, 15 Oct 2012 07:11:36 GMT
I dont disapprove of what you call "freelance votes". I disapprove of votes
not backed by proper review efforts.

Other than that I agree with all you say.

Sent from mobile, forgive terseness and errors
On Oct 15, 2012 3:43 AM, "Marvin Humphrey" <marvin@rectangular.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Ross Gardler
> <rgardler@opendirective.com> wrote:
> > On Oct 13, 2012 2:59 AM, "Marvin Humphrey" <marvin@rectangular.com>
> wrote:
> >> That the Incubator's release process would grind to a halt without
> >> "freelance" IPMC votes exposes a systemic flaw.
> >
> > Also agreed. I think Jukka's release taskforce idea is a good way to
> > address this.
>
> Unfortunately, the "release task force" proposal relies heavily on
> freelancing
> IPMC members:
>
>     http://markmail.org/message/puoeu6yjtxxnqb3w
>
>     In concrete terms I'd like the task force to 1) be the first port of
> call
>     for podlings who're failing to get enough +1s from their mentors
>
> I don't see how you reconcile that with your disapproval of freelance
> votes.
>
> The systemic flaw of the Incubator is that for the duration of incubation,
> podlings are governed not by their contributors, but by IPMC members who
> are
> comparatively less invested in the project, scarce, and subject to
> attrition.
>
> The "task force" approach is unsustainable because freelance release
> reviewing
> is hard and because duty to the Incubator is a weaker motivator than
> loyalty
> to a specific podling.
>
> I'm tired of reading plaintive messages from podling RMs begging for IPMC
> votes a week after the VOTE thread should have closed.  This is our
> problem,
> not theirs.  The least we can do is start sending the reminders ourselves.
>
> Marvin Humphrey
>
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