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From Marvin Humphrey <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Jr. Mentor role
Date Mon, 15 Oct 2012 02:43:25 GMT
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Ross Gardler
<> wrote:
> On Oct 13, 2012 2:59 AM, "Marvin Humphrey" <> wrote:
>> That the Incubator's release process would grind to a halt without
>> "freelance" IPMC votes exposes a systemic flaw.
> Also agreed. I think Jukka's release taskforce idea is a good way to
> address this.

Unfortunately, the "release task force" proposal relies heavily on freelancing
IPMC members:

    In concrete terms I'd like the task force to 1) be the first port of call
    for podlings who're failing to get enough +1s from their mentors

I don't see how you reconcile that with your disapproval of freelance votes.

The systemic flaw of the Incubator is that for the duration of incubation,
podlings are governed not by their contributors, but by IPMC members who are
comparatively less invested in the project, scarce, and subject to attrition.

The "task force" approach is unsustainable because freelance release reviewing
is hard and because duty to the Incubator is a weaker motivator than loyalty
to a specific podling.

I'm tired of reading plaintive messages from podling RMs begging for IPMC
votes a week after the VOTE thread should have closed.  This is our problem,
not theirs.  The least we can do is start sending the reminders ourselves.

Marvin Humphrey

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