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From Chip Childers <>
Subject Re: Shipping binary file in CloudStack release
Date Mon, 29 Oct 2012 14:48:07 GMT
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Noah Slater <> wrote:
> Thanks for following up Chip. Though I do just want to clarify one
> misconception.
> On 29 October 2012 13:21, Chip Childers <> wrote:
>> I actually have more than enough votes right now to close the thread
>> out on the project's dev list, and open up a vote for the IPMC.
> No you don't.
> To me, this sounds like you're saying "to be honest, I could just close the
> vote and ship this right now if I wanted to." I'm not sure if that was the
> intended message.

Nope, that's not what I was saying.  That's taking a single comment
out of the context of the larger email.

> But regardless, you couldn't. A single -1 vote would be
> enough to block the release. Binding or not binding. It doesn't matter. If
> somebody expresses a real, and justified, concern about the artefact, then
> you don't release until you've addressed that concern.

If that's true, then should the release policy [1] be updated?


> I have not given a -1, because I do not personally vote until I am
> confident enough that I am not going to change my mind. (Ironic given that
> I gave the release a +1 and then later changed my mind and retracted it.)
> But I have signalled a clear concern, and that is enough to halt the vote.
> AS IT HAPPENS, I am hoping that someone more experienced than me can assure
> us both that this is a minor issue and that we can proceed with the
> release, and get this fixed afterwards. I just don't
> feel comfortable making that judgement call myself.
> But I did want to make it clear that the technicalities of not having a -1
> are unimportant.
> --
> NS

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