Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 78CF0C35B for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2012 10:31:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 78155 invoked by uid 500); 3 Aug 2012 10:31:45 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 77367 invoked by uid 500); 3 Aug 2012 10:31:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 77329 invoked by uid 99); 3 Aug 2012 10:31:38 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 10:31:38 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of raffaele.p.guidi@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.82.175] (HELO mail-we0-f175.google.com) (74.125.82.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 10:31:32 +0000 Received: by weyr6 with SMTP id r6so297475wey.6 for ; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 03:31:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=xh6M9HABsi+0QUWzO/kU+9r7nPp29VWtsJvMDB4Xi74=; b=sG9iwVlS3EIaEJ9IpF2hbxkmLiQg7jLqgtR0tyo/Cgdpwbai7OuwJ7rVZHS7wn42vT /Fx/zV2Utmn895F1izQYLHEsfi/GQXq7JgVOKY1CrHEJg+uvahDUZpS1I3cv/cXs5NXz Jcelqp91jsP8KlfxFc0sd8xlPqStrcWC3L8r0Txwy3gaqC/Kg0Ce5GFU7sBQYkdCnydL TrPTbX6W/6GuQIhLcpk9AtRu073i0OEhl1B1E0MTGWVjvU8GoBHeuKKp0NgoiW7Yk59a BIYj8JoKo7xnzx66Kr4m9+0rWTzM20KiexENwilz2QL26kfxqL1GGpr3p3z/4mvwpnb3 lIZw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.19.169 with SMTP id g9mr12257759wie.9.1343989872078; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 03:31:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.53.139 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Aug 2012 03:31:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 12:31:12 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [VOTE] Graduation of DirectMemory as a TLP From: "Raffaele P. Guidi" To: directmemory-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: general@incubator.apache.org, directmemory-private@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec53d5ed7e8314104c65a06b4 --bcaec53d5ed7e8314104c65a06b4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think that there is some truth here, and I take the most part of the responsibility on my shoulder - I had really not much time to spend on the project but I honestly think that the rest of the team did a wonderful job in taking over and bringing the project forward - and this is, I believe, proof that the apache model of people over code wins. Said this I also want to state that big memory is hard and not useful to everybody - an http server is useful to all - on a $5000 server, on a laptop for development purposes and on a cheap commodity server, while the requirement behind directmemory is pretty enterprise-ish - you can benefit of it if you have more than 8/16gb of RAM - otherwise standard heap caches are very likely the right solution. Directmemory targets a niche and high level "market" and doing it without any corporate/enterprise help (or need behind) is hard. We achieved some important goals: directmemory can be used together with ehcache instead of their commercial BigMemory and we have a SOLR module that can give benefits to strong SOLR users - but I haven't seen any usage report (not even bad) or comment regarding this use cases (not to mention OSGi integration and other good stuff contributed by our members). DirectMemory needs real use cases with angry or satisfied "customers" to begin evolving with a different pace but the good news is that we started filling a (maybe) important space in the ASF and open source world. Ciao, R On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Daniel Manzke wrote: > Hey guys, > > don't get me wrong (I'll clarify in a second) but I give it a -1. > > It is just my personal feeling. I'm a part of the community since the ear= ly > beginning and the last months I thought it was quite quiet. Yeah there wa= s > the voting for the release and I really appreciate it. > > I can see that the project is getting more visiblility, but the concepts, > the code and all the other stuff is slowly going forward. > There is no real plan where to go. No real leader which really "leads" th= e > community. Sometimes I have the feeling that new features were implemente= d, > without a real concept how to do it. > No Review and so on. > > All this stuff brings me to my -1. Each project needs people who can push > projects and a community which has visions. (I know there are visions, bu= t > not really written down) > > > I know that DM will get a TLP and I'm happy about it. Just wanted to show > my personal feelings. > > > Bye, > Daniel > > 2012/8/2 Christian Grobmeier > > > +1 (ipmc) > > > > Followed the project since the beginning, i strongly feel it is ready > > to take off > > > > Good luck! > > > > On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 12:22 AM, Tim Williams > > wrote: > > > The DirectMemory community is ready to graduate and become a full TLP= . > > > We began incubation in October 2011 and have demonstrated our abilit= y > > > to function according to the Apache Way. We've successfully made a > > > release. We have begun to grow the community. We didn't hold a > > > separate formal vote - it's not a requirement - but the sense of the > > > community is that we're ready to go[1]. > > > > > > Please VOTE to submit the below resolution to the board for > > consideration: > > > > > > [ ] +1 DirectMemory graduates to TLP > > > [ ] -1 DirectMemory isn't ready, because... > > > > > > Vote will remain open for 72hrs... > > > > > > Thanks, > > > --tim > > > > > > [1] - http://markmail.org/thread/3j4q7xehzn72dhk4 > > > > > > > > > > > > X. Resolution to establish the Apache DirectMemory Project > > > > > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best > > > interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation= 's > > > purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged wi= th > > > the creation and maintenance of open-source software related a > > > second level, off-heap, cache able to store large amounts of > > > data without filling > > > up the Java heap and thus avoiding long garbage collection > cycles. > > > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management > > > Committee (PMC), to be known as the "The Apache DirectMemory > > Project", > > > be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the > > > Foundation; and be it further > > > > > > RESOLVED, that The Apache DirectMemory Project be and hereby i= s > > > responsible for the creation and maintenance of a software > > > project related to a second level off-heap cache; and be it > > further > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, DirectMemory" be > and > > > hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at > the > > > direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of The Apache > > > DirectMemory Project, and to have primary responsibility for > > > management of the projects within the scope of responsibility = of > > > The Apache DirectMemory Project; and be it further > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and > > > hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of The > > > Apache DirectMemory Project: > > > > > > * Ioannic Canellos (iocanel) > > > * Maurizio Cucchiara (mcucchiara) > > > * Christian Grobmeier (grobmeier) > > > * Olivier Lamy (olamy) > > > * Raffaele P. Guidi (raffaeleguidi) > > > * Simone Gianni (simoneg) > > > * Simone Tripodi (simonetripodi) > > > * Tommaso Teofill (tommaso) > > > * Benoit Perroud (bperroud) > > > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Raffaele P. > > > Guidi be and hereby is appointed to the office of Vice > > > President, DirectMemory, to serve in accordance with and subje= ct > > to > > > the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the > > > Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or > > > disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it > > > further > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the initial Apache DirectMemory Project be and > > hereby > > > is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache > > > Incubator DirectMemory podling; and be it further > > > > > > RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache > > > Incubator DirectMemory podling encumbered upon the Apache > > Incubator > > > PMC are hereafter discharged. > > > > > > > > -- > > http://www.grobmeier.de > > https://www.timeandbill.de > > > > > > -- > Viele Gr=FC=DFe/Best Regards > > Daniel Manzke > --bcaec53d5ed7e8314104c65a06b4--