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From Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Graduation of DirectMemory as a TLP
Date Sat, 04 Aug 2012 18:16:15 GMT
Hello Daniel,

my +1 is based on the fact, that DM is running in the Apache way. When
you say, there is no project leader i would like to oppose that Apache
projects should not have project managers or leaders. If you want
something to happen, you need to do it yourself.

This is one interesting link:
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community

I totally see an open and friendly community here. I see it is stable
and I am sure it will not die in near future.

Another question is the process of development. It is no requirement
for incubating projects to implement peer reviews, use Jenkins or
write documentation. Of course it is helping to attract new users and
so. And yes, I agree it is only to the benefit of DM if that project
would start doing such stuff. But it is not required for graduating
the project out of the incubator.

As you have heard on the responses to your mail, people got your
message. And I honestly think that there really could be more
discussion on a roadmap or maybe a discussion on peer reviews.

My suggestion is that you bring up this discussion on the dev list and
maybe you have some good ideas how to improve the things you
mentioned. The project definitely needs people like you who can see
what is missing and who are willing to lend a hand to improve them. As
I mentioned before, if you want to see a change you are welcome to do
it - that's why we call Apache a do-cracy often. It does not matter if
you are committer or not, so just discuss the things you want to see
to happen.

Here is a good link on the ASF itself:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html

Hopefully you read some cool things there which motivates you to help
DM further and bring in some of your idea to the project.

Cheers
Christian

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Daniel Manzke
<daniel.manzke@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> don't get me wrong (I'll clarify in a second) but I give it a -1.
>
> It is just my personal feeling. I'm a part of the community since the early
> beginning and the last months I thought it was quite quiet. Yeah there was
> the voting for the release and I really appreciate it.
>
> I can see that the project is getting more visiblility, but the concepts,
> the code and all the other stuff is slowly going forward.
> There is no real plan where to go. No real leader which really "leads" the
> community. Sometimes I have the feeling that new features were implemented,
> without a real concept how to do it.
> No Review and so on.
>
> All this stuff brings me to my -1. Each project needs people who can push
> projects and a community which has visions. (I know there are visions, but
> not really written down)
>
>
> I know that DM will get a TLP and I'm happy about it. Just wanted to show
> my personal feelings.
>
>
> Bye,
> Daniel
>
> 2012/8/2 Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com>
>
>> +1 (ipmc)
>>
>> Followed the project since the beginning, i strongly feel it is ready
>> to take off
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 12:22 AM, Tim Williams <williamstw@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > The DirectMemory community is ready to graduate and become a full TLP.
>> >  We began incubation in October 2011 and have demonstrated our ability
>> > to function according to the Apache Way.  We've successfully made a
>> > release.  We have begun to grow the community.  We didn't hold a
>> > separate formal vote - it's not a requirement - but the sense of the
>> > community is that we're ready to go[1].
>> >
>> > Please VOTE to submit the below resolution to the board for
>> consideration:
>> >
>> > [ ] +1 DirectMemory graduates to TLP
>> > [ ] -1 DirectMemory isn't ready, because...
>> >
>> > Vote will remain open for 72hrs...
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > --tim
>> >
>> > [1] - http://markmail.org/thread/3j4q7xehzn72dhk4
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > X. Resolution to establish the Apache DirectMemory Project
>> >
>> > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>> >        interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's
>> >        purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with
>> >        the creation and maintenance of open-source software related a
>> >        second level, off-heap, cache able to store large amounts of
>> > data without filling
>> >        up the Java heap and thus avoiding long garbage collection cycles.
>> >
>> >        NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>> >        Committee (PMC), to be known as the "The Apache DirectMemory
>> Project",
>> >        be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>> >        Foundation; and be it further
>> >
>> >        RESOLVED, that The Apache DirectMemory Project be and hereby is
>> >        responsible for the creation and maintenance of a software
>> >        project related to a second level off-heap cache; and be it
>> further
>> >
>> >        RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, DirectMemory" be and
>> >        hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
>> >        direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of The Apache
>> >        DirectMemory Project, and to have primary responsibility for
>> >        management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of
>> >        The Apache DirectMemory Project; and be it further
>> >
>> >        RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>> >        hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of The
>> >        Apache DirectMemory Project:
>> >
>> >          * Ioannic Canellos (iocanel)
>> >          * Maurizio Cucchiara (mcucchiara)
>> >          * Christian Grobmeier (grobmeier)
>> >          * Olivier Lamy (olamy)
>> >          * Raffaele P. Guidi (raffaeleguidi)
>> >          * Simone Gianni (simoneg)
>> >          * Simone Tripodi (simonetripodi)
>> >          * Tommaso Teofill (tommaso)
>> >          * Benoit Perroud (bperroud)
>> >
>> >        NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Raffaele P.
>> >        Guidi be and hereby is appointed to the office of Vice
>> >        President, DirectMemory, to serve in accordance with and subject
>> to
>> >        the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the
>> >        Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
>> >        disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
>> >        further
>> >
>> >        RESOLVED, that the initial Apache DirectMemory Project be and
>> hereby
>> >        is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
>> >        Incubator DirectMemory podling; and be it further
>> >
>> >        RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache
>> >        Incubator DirectMemory podling encumbered upon the Apache
>> Incubator
>> >        PMC are hereafter discharged.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>> https://www.timeandbill.de
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Viele Grüße/Best Regards
>
> Daniel Manzke



-- 
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https://www.timeandbill.de

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