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From Daniel Manzke <daniel.man...@googlemail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Graduation of DirectMemory as a TLP
Date Sat, 04 Aug 2012 19:33:53 GMT
Hey Christian,

your mail and the other responses are showing to me that it was understood,
what I wanted to express. This leads me to switch my -1 to a +1.
I like the project and I'll see how I can help.

Best Regards,
Daniel

2012/8/4 Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com>

> Hello Daniel,
>
> my +1 is based on the fact, that DM is running in the Apache way. When
> you say, there is no project leader i would like to oppose that Apache
> projects should not have project managers or leaders. If you want
> something to happen, you need to do it yourself.
>
> This is one interesting link:
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community
>
> I totally see an open and friendly community here. I see it is stable
> and I am sure it will not die in near future.
>
> Another question is the process of development. It is no requirement
> for incubating projects to implement peer reviews, use Jenkins or
> write documentation. Of course it is helping to attract new users and
> so. And yes, I agree it is only to the benefit of DM if that project
> would start doing such stuff. But it is not required for graduating
> the project out of the incubator.
>
> As you have heard on the responses to your mail, people got your
> message. And I honestly think that there really could be more
> discussion on a roadmap or maybe a discussion on peer reviews.
>
> My suggestion is that you bring up this discussion on the dev list and
> maybe you have some good ideas how to improve the things you
> mentioned. The project definitely needs people like you who can see
> what is missing and who are willing to lend a hand to improve them. As
> I mentioned before, if you want to see a change you are welcome to do
> it - that's why we call Apache a do-cracy often. It does not matter if
> you are committer or not, so just discuss the things you want to see
> to happen.
>
> Here is a good link on the ASF itself:
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html
>
> Hopefully you read some cool things there which motivates you to help
> DM further and bring in some of your idea to the project.
>
> Cheers
> Christian
>
> On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Daniel Manzke
> <daniel.manzke@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Hey guys,
> >
> > don't get me wrong (I'll clarify in a second) but I give it a -1.
> >
> > It is just my personal feeling. I'm a part of the community since the
> early
> > beginning and the last months I thought it was quite quiet. Yeah there
> was
> > the voting for the release and I really appreciate it.
> >
> > I can see that the project is getting more visiblility, but the concepts,
> > the code and all the other stuff is slowly going forward.
> > There is no real plan where to go. No real leader which really "leads"
> the
> > community. Sometimes I have the feeling that new features were
> implemented,
> > without a real concept how to do it.
> > No Review and so on.
> >
> > All this stuff brings me to my -1. Each project needs people who can push
> > projects and a community which has visions. (I know there are visions,
> but
> > not really written down)
> >
> >
> > I know that DM will get a TLP and I'm happy about it. Just wanted to show
> > my personal feelings.
> >
> >
> > Bye,
> > Daniel
> >
> > 2012/8/2 Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com>
> >
> >> +1 (ipmc)
> >>
> >> Followed the project since the beginning, i strongly feel it is ready
> >> to take off
> >>
> >> Good luck!
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 12:22 AM, Tim Williams <williamstw@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > The DirectMemory community is ready to graduate and become a full TLP.
> >> >  We began incubation in October 2011 and have demonstrated our ability
> >> > to function according to the Apache Way.  We've successfully made a
> >> > release.  We have begun to grow the community.  We didn't hold a
> >> > separate formal vote - it's not a requirement - but the sense of the
> >> > community is that we're ready to go[1].
> >> >
> >> > Please VOTE to submit the below resolution to the board for
> >> consideration:
> >> >
> >> > [ ] +1 DirectMemory graduates to TLP
> >> > [ ] -1 DirectMemory isn't ready, because...
> >> >
> >> > Vote will remain open for 72hrs...
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > --tim
> >> >
> >> > [1] - http://markmail.org/thread/3j4q7xehzn72dhk4
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > X. Resolution to establish the Apache DirectMemory Project
> >> >
> >> > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> >> >        interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's
> >> >        purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged
> with
> >> >        the creation and maintenance of open-source software related a
> >> >        second level, off-heap, cache able to store large amounts of
> >> > data without filling
> >> >        up the Java heap and thus avoiding long garbage collection
> cycles.
> >> >
> >> >        NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> >> >        Committee (PMC), to be known as the "The Apache DirectMemory
> >> Project",
> >> >        be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> >> >        Foundation; and be it further
> >> >
> >> >        RESOLVED, that The Apache DirectMemory Project be and hereby is
> >> >        responsible for the creation and maintenance of a software
> >> >        project related to a second level off-heap cache; and be it
> >> further
> >> >
> >> >        RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, DirectMemory" be
> and
> >> >        hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at
> the
> >> >        direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of The Apache
> >> >        DirectMemory Project, and to have primary responsibility for
> >> >        management of the projects within the scope of responsibility
> of
> >> >        The Apache DirectMemory Project; and be it further
> >> >
> >> >        RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> >> >        hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of The
> >> >        Apache DirectMemory Project:
> >> >
> >> >          * Ioannic Canellos (iocanel)
> >> >          * Maurizio Cucchiara (mcucchiara)
> >> >          * Christian Grobmeier (grobmeier)
> >> >          * Olivier Lamy (olamy)
> >> >          * Raffaele P. Guidi (raffaeleguidi)
> >> >          * Simone Gianni (simoneg)
> >> >          * Simone Tripodi (simonetripodi)
> >> >          * Tommaso Teofill (tommaso)
> >> >          * Benoit Perroud (bperroud)
> >> >
> >> >        NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Raffaele P.
> >> >        Guidi be and hereby is appointed to the office of Vice
> >> >        President, DirectMemory, to serve in accordance with and
> subject
> >> to
> >> >        the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the
> >> >        Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> >> >        disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
> >> >        further
> >> >
> >> >        RESOLVED, that the initial Apache DirectMemory Project be and
> >> hereby
> >> >        is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> >> >        Incubator DirectMemory podling; and be it further
> >> >
> >> >        RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache
> >> >        Incubator DirectMemory podling encumbered upon the Apache
> >> Incubator
> >> >        PMC are hereafter discharged.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> http://www.grobmeier.de
> >> https://www.timeandbill.de
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Viele Grüße/Best Regards
> >
> > Daniel Manzke
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.grobmeier.de
> https://www.timeandbill.de
>



-- 
Viele Grüße/Best Regards

Daniel Manzke

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