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From Otis Gospodnetic <otis_gospodne...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator
Date Wed, 08 Aug 2012 00:02:13 GMT
I concur with Andrzej.  Let's see that VOTE Ted!

Otis 
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>________________________________
> From: Andrzej Bialecki <ab@getopt.org>
>To: general@incubator.apache.org 
>Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2012 5:51 PM
>Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator
> 
>On 07/08/2012 21:14, Franklin, Matthew B. wrote:
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Marvin Humphrey [mailto:marvin@rectangular.com]
>>> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 12:25 PM
>>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>>> Cc: Grant Ingersoll; Isabel Drost
>>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunning@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Initial Source
>>>> ==============
>>>> There is no initial source code. All source code will be developed within
>>>> the Apache Incubator.
>>>
>>> Coming in without any source code is going to pose a challenge to this
>>> podling.
>>>
>>>     http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#incubator
>>>
>>>     The incubator filters projects on the basis of the likeliness of
>>> them becoming
>>>     successful meritocratic communities. The basic requirements for incubation
>>>     are:
>>>
>>>         * a working codebase -- over the years and after several failures,
the
>>>           foundation came to understand that without an initial working
>>>           codebase, it is generally hard to bootstrap a community. This
is
>>>           because merit is not well recognized by developers without a working
>>>           codebase. Also, the friction that is developed during the initial
>>>           design stage is likely to fragment the community.
>>
>> It seems like there could be flexibility in this requirement, based on a few factors. 
In this case, a design discussion has been ongoing; but I would also think that any community
coming in with enough people who know the Apache way may also not need as much of a solid
starting point code wise.
>
>+1. Given the credentials and the experience of proposed committers and 
>mentors, and the fact that the initial design is already done, I don't 
>think this is a serious risk. And it's an exciting proposal with a 
>potentially big impact.
>
>-- 
>Best regards,
>Andrzej Bialecki
>http://www.sigram.com, blog http://www.sigram.com/blog
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