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From sebb <seb...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Fwd: [ANN] Apache Syncope 1.0.0-RC3-incubating released
Date Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:59:08 GMT
On 27 July 2012 17:43, Franklin, Matthew B. <mfranklin@mitre.org> wrote:
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: simone.tripodi@gmail.com [mailto:simone.tripodi@gmail.com] On
>>Behalf Of Simone Tripodi
>>Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 6:23 AM
>>To: general@incubator.apache.org; elecharny@apache.org
>>Subject: Re: Fwd: [ANN] Apache Syncope 1.0.0-RC3-incubating released
>>
>>Aplogize for joining the discussion late, but
>>
>>> Here, I would argue that unless we have some written direction about what
>>> release numbering scheme  the incubating should use at The ASF, then
>>> whatever a project decides to use is fine.
>>
>>+1
>
> +1.  Designating a release 'RC' is common enough in industry that I don't think we should
arbitrarily restrict it just because we refer to releases undergoing a VOTE as 'release candidates'.

And it's very commonly used in the ASF when voting on releases.
So you may find there are ongoing questions about why such artifacts
are being announced.

>>
>>nothing to add :)
>>-Simo
>>
>>http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>>http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
>>http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
>>http://www.99soft.org/
>>
>>
>>On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Emmanuel Lécharny <elecharny@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I wish the proposal made my Jukka includes this matter.
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 7/27/12 11:32 AM, sebb a écrit :
>>>
>>>> On 27 July 2012 08:22, Francesco Chicchiriccò <ilgrosso@apache.org>
>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 27/07/2012 08:13, Emmanuel Lécharny wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 7/27/12 1:02 AM, Joe Schaefer a écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I believe Bill is complaining not about the venue,
>>>>>>> but the choice of referring to this package as
>>>>>>> a "release candidate" instead of simply dropping
>>>>>>> the "RC" portion of the package name like other
>>>>>>> projects typically do with approved candidates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah, ok. Makes sense then.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My perception is that the Syncope guys are trying to cut a 1.0.0,
>>>>>> instead
>>>>>> of going through many 0.x.0 before, therefore they are iterating
on RC
>>>>>> atm.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed, yes.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's pretty much semantic, IMHO.
>>>>
>>>> In other ASF projects I've seen, the convention is to use -alpha1 or
>>>> -beta2 etc. to designate such stages.
>>>>
>>>> Release Candidate (RC) has a specific meaning in the ASF, as it is
>>>> what is voted on before release.
>>>>
>>>> So one would vote on
>>>>
>>>> 1.0.0-beta3-incubating-RCn
>>>>
>>>> and a successful vote would result in the release of
>>>>
>>>> 1.0.0-beta3-incubating
>>>>
>>>> A failed vote for RCn would normally result in trying again with RCn+1
>>>> to address the cause of the failure.
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Do incubator peeps think it's a wrong approach?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope it's not: anyway, this RC3 should be the last one before actual
>>>>> 1.0.0-incubating.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Francesco Chicchiriccò
>>>>>
>>>>> ASF Member, Apache Cocoon PMC and Apache Syncope PPMC Member
>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~ilgrosso/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>> Cordialement,
>>> Emmanuel Lécharny
>>> www.iktek.com
>>>
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