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From Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: Fwd: [ANN] Apache Syncope 1.0.0-RC3-incubating released
Date Thu, 26 Jul 2012 23:02:50 GMT
I believe Bill is complaining not about the venue,
but the choice of referring to this package as
a "release candidate" instead of simply dropping
the "RC" portion of the package name like other
projects typically do with approved candidates.



----- Original Message -----
> From: Emmanuel Lécharny <elecharny@gmail.com>
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: 
> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 6:59 PM
> Subject: Re: Fwd: [ANN] Apache Syncope 1.0.0-RC3-incubating released
> 
> Bill,
> 
> the very first incubating project that posted a mail on announce@a.o was 
> Tuscany, back in 2007...
> 
> In the past 5 years, just checking the incubating projects having used 
> annouance@a.o, I see 140 messages.
> 18/5/2007 : [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tuscany SDO Java 1.0-incubating-beta1 released
> 4/7/2009 : [ANNOUNCE] Apache CXF 2.0-incubator released!
> 23/8/2007 : [ANNOUNCE] Apache UIMA 2.2.0-incubating
> 25/3/2008 : [ANN] Apache NMaven 0.15-incubating Released
> 25/6/2008 : [ANNOUNCE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating has been released
> 15/2/2009 : [ANNOUNCE] Sanslean 0.97-incubating
> 21/2/2009 : [ANNOUNCE] Apache Click 2.0.1-incubating released
> etc, etc.
> 
> I don't think that suddenly something has changed in the announc@a.o 
> usage policy, related to Incubator releases.
> 
> 
> Le 7/27/12 12:30 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. a écrit :
>>  This seems very odd to me, certainly unusual among Apache projects.
>> 
>>  The -dev and -user lists (and even general@incubator) are used to announce 
> that
>>  a release candidate is available and should be tested for readiness to 
> become
>>  an actual release.  Some projects use differently-numbered alpha and beta
>>  designations in a similar manner.
>> 
>>  A release candidate is, by definition, something which is not yet a 
> release.
>>  It doesn't seem like announce@apache.org is an appropriate channel.  
> The amount
>>  of traffic that list would carry if every 'might become a release' 
> candidate
>>  was offered over what is supposed to be a lower-bandwidth, higher priority 
> list
>>  for users to pick up released updates.
>> 
>>  My 2c nonbinding.
>> 
>>  Bill
>> 
>> 
>>  -------- Original Message --------
>>  Subject:     [ANN] Apache Syncope 1.0.0-RC3-incubating released
>>  Date:     Thu, 26 Jul 2012 21:43:06 +0200
>>  From:     Fabio Martelli <fmartelli@apache.org>
>>  To:     announce@apache.org
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  The Apache Syncope team is pleased to announce the release of Syncope 
> 1.0.0-RC3-incubating
>>  from the Apache Incubator.
>> 
>>  Apache Syncope is an Open Source system for managing digital identities in 
> enterprise
>>  environments, implemented in JEE technology .
>> 
>>  The release will be available *within 24h from*:
>>  http://incubator.apache.org/syncope/downloads.html
>> 
>>  The full change log is available here:
>>  http://s.apache.org/tah
>> 
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SYNCOPE/Espressivo#Espressivo-1.0.0RC1incubating(June1st,2012)>
>> 
>>  We welcome your help and feedback. For more information on how to report 
> problems, and to
>>  get involved, visit the project website at
>> 
>>  http://incubator.apache.org/syncope/
>> 
>>  The Apache Syncope Team
>> 
>>  Best regards,
>>  F.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Cordialement,
> Emmanuel Lécharny
> www.iktek.com
> 
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