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From Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: inadequate graduation requests being filed with infra
Date Wed, 11 Jul 2012 15:17:55 GMT
The reason this is so annoying is that without all the details
we have a hard time collaborating as sysadmins on the work required.
So you want a CMS site?  Well have your mailing lists moved yet? What
about svn? etc.  We provide enough services now that breaking out
the Infra team into specialties makes sense, so no don't expect a single
person to track all the required work in his/her head.  Podlings, just
do usa favor and fill out TLP request properly without us needing to prod
you, thx.



----- Original Message -----
> From: Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com>
> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org>; Tim Williams
<williamstw@gmail.com>; Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com>
> Cc: 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 10:52 AM
> Subject: Re: inadequate graduation requests being filed with infra
> 
>T he graduation docs look fine to me now that I've reread them.
> I guess we just need to raise awareness to follow them precisely
> when a podling has graduated.
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
>>  From: Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com>
>>  To: Tim Williams <williamstw@gmail.com>; 
> "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org>
>>  Cc: 
>>  Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 10:29 AM
>>  Subject: Re: inadequate graduation requests being filed with infra
>> 
>>  Shouldn't there already be such a representative ticket in the 
> incubator
>>  docs?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>   From: Tim Williams <williamstw@gmail.com>
>>>   To: general@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer 
>>  <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com>
>>>   Cc: 
>>>   Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 10:26 AM
>>>   Subject: Re: inadequate graduation requests being filed with infra
>>> 
>>>   On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Joe Schaefer 
>>  <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com> 
>>>   wrote:
>>>>    While the new move to push podlings towards graduation is
>>>>    something I'm happy to see, lately the quality of the tickets
>>>>    being filed with INFRA has hit new lows, bogging down the
>>>>    process considerably.
>>>> 
>>>>    I don't know if some docs have recently changed or need 
> fixing,
>>>>    but the situation sucks for the sysadmins trying to complete
>>>>    this work in a timely fashion.  Whether we need to go back to
>>>>    filing a single ticket containing all the necessary details or
>>>>    continue to break things down into subtickets does not concern
>>>>    me, but the lack of detail in these requests is strikingly bad
>>>>    and needs to be addressed by the IPMC.  Thanks.
>>> 
>>>   Hi Joe,
>>>   Can you point to a ticket [or tickets] from a graduating podling that
>>>   got it right?
>>> 
>>>   Thanks,
>>>   --tim
>>> 
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