Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2FB90C85C for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 22:56:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 82034 invoked by uid 500); 7 Jun 2012 22:56:47 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 81776 invoked by uid 500); 7 Jun 2012 22:56:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 81756 invoked by uid 99); 7 Jun 2012 22:56:47 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 22:56:47 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of aharui@adobe.com designates 64.18.1.35 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.18.1.35] (HELO exprod6og115.obsmtp.com) (64.18.1.35) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 22:56:37 +0000 Received: from outbound-smtp-1.corp.adobe.com ([192.150.11.134]) by exprod6ob115.postini.com ([64.18.5.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKT9Exj9g/Tg64rS8SzYG+EWfzdF8+DHU7@postini.com; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 15:56:16 PDT Received: from inner-relay-1.corp.adobe.com ([153.32.1.51]) by outbound-smtp-1.corp.adobe.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id q57MrxJ0024985; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 15:53:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nahub01.corp.adobe.com (nahub01.corp.adobe.com [10.8.189.97]) by inner-relay-1.corp.adobe.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id q57MuEvm012065; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 15:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from NAMBX02.corp.adobe.com ([10.8.127.96]) by nahub01.corp.adobe.com ([10.8.189.97]) with mapi; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 15:56:14 -0700 From: Alex Harui To: "flex-dev@incubator.apache.org" , "general@incubator.apache.org" Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 15:56:11 -0700 Subject: Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source Thread-Topic: [MENTORS] Third Party source Thread-Index: Ac1E/Zv3JyuYTYzURx6mDokcqMq2nAAAx9tX Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/13.11.0.110726 acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 On 6/7/12 3:33 PM, "Greg Stein" wrote: > On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Greg Reddin wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Greg Stein wrote: >>> Jeff doesn't have to do it himself: that's just deference to his >>> wishes and ensuring that we don't pre-suppose or get them wrong. >>=20 >> Ah, so there's no legal requirement to deal with here. Adobe cleared >> that up with the software grant? >=20 > From the description you provided, it sounded like Jeff was employed > by Adobe when he wrote the code. Thus, Adobe actually owns the > copyrights via work-for-hire rules. And thus, Adobe has the right to > grant his work to the ASF under the already-filed Software Grant. >=20 > So based on my understanding from your description: yeah. We don't > need anything from Jeff. >=20 > To be polite, we ask his wishes (and he's already said "whatever", it > seems), but we don't *have* to ask. >=20 Jeff ran a company and wrote the code while at that company then was acquired by Macromedia (and then by Adobe). The copyrights are for that company, and the agreement when acquiring Jeff and his company was such tha= t Adobe retained his company's copyright in the headers of those files. Otherwise, the headers would have copyright to Adobe and would have just changed them. Thanks, --=20 Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe Systems, Inc. http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org