Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 43C55DA98 for ; Sat, 30 Jun 2012 13:32:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 39499 invoked by uid 500); 30 Jun 2012 13:32:07 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 39292 invoked by uid 500); 30 Jun 2012 13:32:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 39276 invoked by uid 99); 30 Jun 2012 13:32:07 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 30 Jun 2012 13:32:07 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of akarasulu@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.177 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.212.177] (HELO mail-wi0-f177.google.com) (209.85.212.177) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 30 Jun 2012 13:31:59 +0000 Received: by wibhm11 with SMTP id hm11so1440866wib.0 for ; Sat, 30 Jun 2012 06:31:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1ShkGpvX1Lk5epb7KXOb4W1aS/xUBpmY0dL6BOQnlOY=; b=BTeyiHybQO/7U7Fc1TFuQB24Jknn2iyIuPFguEMP4CIdWvJLzwAa73iFdnkbvMFXbL Ls7JScE3ysXfJrWqz4bCpwdJ8sJUezs8REivJzjRnSvO4jwYoYgbbzFS1eBuLPo9HaM+ 2GzF2X5MA6KHmgVcQluXpfAKzT7ViCqk8OOwp8kK/i1rnRhyCBfvoulYGREkmZetONO1 dYWFAI3Nh+8d3xmD/KdgOjCT4XKDWHdkmYu1R4tJNVjqRImV4blIF/v88F3JKZw4W1mC ByUrvdOdxyfdgZ5N1vBRL9vKI578aW24PkJmZUtIhGLN4N1CQvcd4ru/R70a/ICJ7lFp 9w1w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.81.165 with SMTP id b5mr4987469wiy.17.1341063099443; Sat, 30 Jun 2012 06:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Sender: akarasulu@gmail.com Received: by 10.180.87.99 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Jun 2012 06:31:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FEEF6C8.4030909@gmail.com> References: <39B3AEDF-0414-493E-8A2E-5DD4F0FDE5F7@jaguNET.com> <4FEEF6C8.4030909@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 16:31:39 +0300 X-Google-Sender-Auth: _1LChN8QuJAPKLjU1UWECIDAfVE Message-ID: Subject: Re: Board will be proposing a new TLP From: Alex Karasulu To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Emmanuel L=E9charny = wrote: > Le 6/30/12 2:23 PM, Jim Jagielski a =E9crit : >> >> Since all code was developed w/i the ASF, by ASF people, and >> is under the ALv2 (either implied/confirmed by the authors or >> explicit in the code itself), there is some debate on whether >> or not Incubation is even required... > > Sure we should go through incubation, to make sure the peeps being STV co= de > *knows* about the Apache Way... > > Or is this simple non-sense ? No I don't think this is non-sense. However note that as Jim pointed out, the difference here, that would favor the direct TLP route, is the fact that everyone working on the voting tool are already Apache Committers and Members. Conceivably they already know the "Apache Way". Then again a quick incubation process might help get an extra sanity check from the Incubator. Your point makes sense considering outside participants to build a larger community around the tool. Incubation might be a good environment for a mass influx of "new to Apache", interested parties to participate. But it does not sound like they're going to be directly involved, knocking on our doors immediately. Also there's no IP to vet. I presume this is more a matter of making the software an official Apache Product with PMC endorsed releases that other organizations like OpenStack can use immediately. +1 Setup TLP without incubation, yet I can understand arguments for a quick incubation. --=20 Best Regards, -- Alex --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org