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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 18:29:38 +0100 (BST)
From: Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>
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Subject: Re: Isis status (Was: [Incubator Wiki] Update of "June2012" by
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+1 for graduation as well.=0A=0A=0AThe involved persons are really high cla=
ss team players and I know from personal experience with other projects tha=
t there are at least 30x more users than the ones who show up on=A0 mailing=
 lists. You only hear from them after a conference talks when they tell you=
 that they do 15 million requests per day with your tool ;) The same seems =
true for Isis given the questions we have on the mailing list every now and=
 then. =0A=0ALieGrue,=0Astrub=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message -----=0A> From=
: Benson Margulies <bimargulies@gmail.com>=0A> To: general@incubator.apache=
.org=0A> Cc: =0A> Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2012 6:18 PM=0A> Subject: Re: Isi=
s status (Was: [Incubator Wiki] Update of "June2012" by DanHaywood)=0A> =0A=
> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Jukka Zitting <jukka.zitting@gmail.com> =
=0A> wrote:=0A>>  Hi,=0A>> =0A>>  Thanks for the report, Isis!=0A>> =0A>>  =
On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Apache Wiki <wikidiffs@apache.org> =0A> wr=
ote:=0A>>>  + =A0 - only really one issue: need to demonstrate can bring in=
 at least =0A> one=0A>>>  + =A0 =A0 new committer. =A0At that point, we fee=
l that we have done enough =0A> to=0A>>>  + =A0 =A0 warrant graduation (as =
a small but viable community)=0A>> =0A>>  Looking at Isis I'm a bit worried=
 about the drop of activity over the=0A>>  past few months, especially in A=
pril. Hopefully that's just a=0A>>  temporary issue.=0A>> =0A>>  I see you =
do have three active committers (danhaywood, kevin and=0A>>  rmatthews have=
 commits from this year) and you are able to cut=0A>>  releases, which alre=
ady covers most of the common concerns about low=0A>>  diversity in a proje=
ct. See also the recent discussions on general@=0A>>  about the diversity r=
equirement and the way the issue is being=0A>>  addressed by the Etch proje=
ct. It seems like following the example of=0A>>  Etch would work fine for I=
sis.=0A>> =0A>>  To summarize, it looks like you could be ready to graduate=
 already now=0A>>  if the community itself thinks it's time to do so. Alter=
natively you=0A>>  could try to recruit one more committer before graduatio=
n, which would=0A>>  make the IPMC graduation vote a much easier decision.=
=0A>> =0A>>  Mentors, what's your feeling about the readiness of Isis to gr=
aduate?=0A> =0A> +: This group has been, in my experience, very good with A=
pache=0A> process since the start. I'm not really concerned that they will=
=0A> suddenly grow fangs and claws as a TLP when and if they finally meet a=
=0A> new person and get the chance to assimilate him or her.=0A> =0A> -: Th=
ey're just barely big enough, and there may just not be enough=0A> interest=
ed parties out there.=0A> =0A> Given recent views on this subject, I'd lean=
 toward graduation rather=0A> than endless incubation or a parting of the w=
ays.=0A> =0A> =0A>> =0A>>>  + =A0 - hopeful that the new project currently =
starting will yield a new =0A> committer=0A>> =0A>>  I remember [1] you did=
 a lot of good stuff recently to remove barriers=0A>>  of entry. However, i=
t looks like you may be missing out on some=0A>>  potential new contributor=
s. For example Jason Richardson filed five=0A>>  issues in May [2] but didn=
't get any feedback on them yet. A simple=0A>>  "Do you have a fix in mind?=
 A patch would be great!" reply goes a =0A> long=0A>>  way.=0A>> =0A>>  [1]=
 http://markmail.org/message/yklgr4vztpqconag=0A>>  [2] =0A> https://issues=
.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=3Dtrue&jqlQuery=3Dproject=
+%3D+ISIS+AND+reporter+%3D+%22jason.richardson%22=0A>> =0A>>  BR,=0A>> =0A>=
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