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From Ross Gardler <rgard...@opendirective.com>
Subject Re: Board will be proposing a new TLP
Date Sat, 30 Jun 2012 21:16:49 GMT
On Jun 30, 2012 9:34 PM, "Mark Struberg" <struberg@yahoo.de> wrote:
>
> Another question: for which case do you like to use the voting tool?

The idea is not to make it more widely used inside the ASF (we all have
access to it and know where it is already). The idea is to make it more
visible and accessible to external users.

Ross

>
> Imo this makes only sense for invite votes. And even for those it's
sometimes important to be able to cast additional notes.
>
>
> For technical votes it is de facto always the case that I like to see if
people like it straight away, or if they have additional ideas.
>
> Otherwise +1 for a voting project as TLP.
>
> I'd be more in favour to go through incubation though. And if it's only
to increase visibility and to show people that we treat each project
equally.
> Such a project could surely graduate within a few months.
>
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Alex Karasulu <akarasulu@apache.org>
> > To: general@incubator.apache.org
> > Cc:
> > Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 3:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: Board will be proposing a new TLP
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Emmanuel Lécharny <elecharny@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>  Le 6/30/12 2:23 PM, Jim Jagielski a écrit :
> >>>
> >>>  Since all code was developed w/i the ASF, by ASF people, and
> >>>  is under the ALv2 (either implied/confirmed by the authors or
> >>>  explicit in the code itself), there is some debate on whether
> >>>  or not Incubation is even required...
> >>
> >>  Sure we should go through incubation, to make sure the peeps being
STV code
> >>  *knows* about the Apache Way...
> >>
> >>  Or is this simple non-sense ?
> >
> > No I don't think this is non-sense. However note that as Jim pointed
> > out, the difference here, that would favor the direct TLP route, is
> > the fact that everyone working on the voting tool are already Apache
> > Committers and Members. Conceivably they already know the "Apache
> > Way". Then again a quick incubation process might help get an extra
> > sanity check from the Incubator.
> >
> > Your point makes sense considering outside participants to build a
> > larger community around the tool. Incubation might be a good
> > environment for a mass influx of "new to Apache", interested parties
> > to participate. But it does not sound like they're going to be
> > directly involved, knocking on our doors immediately. Also there's no
> > IP to vet. I presume this is more a matter of making the software an
> > official Apache Product with PMC endorsed releases that other
> > organizations like OpenStack can use immediately.
> >
> > +1 Setup TLP without incubation, yet I can understand arguments for a
> > quick incubation.
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards,
> > -- Alex
> >
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