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From drew <d...@baseanswers.com>
Subject Re: References to "Apache OpenOffice"
Date Sat, 23 Jun 2012 20:33:37 GMT
On Sat, 2012-06-23 at 16:01 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 3:55 PM, drew <drew@baseanswers.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, 2012-06-23 at 15:42 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
> >> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 2:59 PM, drew <drew@baseanswers.com> wrote:
> >> > On Sat, 2012-06-23 at 19:43 +0100, Nick Kew wrote:
> >> >> On 23 Jun 2012, at 19:37, Nick Kew wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Nor what appears on planet.apache.org, featuring the article that
first struck me
> >> >> > as using the name in a way I wouldn't expect when I read it in
my feed reader:
> >> >> > http://www.robweir.com/blog/2012/06/pache-openoffice-34-downloads.html
> >> >>
> >> >> Following that link in a browser I see there's also a nice but questionable
logo:
> >> >> http://www.robweir.com/blog/images/get-aoo-300x100-cf.png
> >> >> If PR are OK with that then fine, but I find it surprising.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> With reference to the Podling Branding Guide [1] , the requirement is
> >> that the product be called "Apache OpenOffice".  That is the name.
> >> Nothing else.  But we're also required to "mention that the project is
> >> under Incubation".  There is more than one way of doing that.  Also,
> >> "These statements only need to be disclosed upon the first reference
> >> in a document."  IMHO, we've done that for the blog posts as hosted on
> >> ASF servers.  But it is not clear if or how we control other parties
> >> tweeting links.  But I assume if someone feels strongly about
> >> controlling things at that level they will propose a way.
> >>
> >> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html
> >>
> >>
> >> > hmm - I suppose you are correct, it shouldn't have the feather and
> >> > should have the incubator tab - right?
> >> >
> >>
> >> Actually, we did approve that logo as a PPMC as part of a download
> >> promotion program:
> >>
> >> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/get-it-here.html
> >>
> >> We ran that by VP Branding as well.  I could be wrong, but my
> >> impression was he approved as well.
> >
> > So what, it is still wrong and I can fix it easy enough.
> >
> 
> There is more than one way to make it right, so it might be worth a
> quick discuss on ooo-dev.
> 
> Or if you are in a JFDI mood, the live copy is here:
> 
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/site/trunk/content/openofficeorg/images/get-it-here/en.png


Ok - well, I still have the original SVG file on disk, so I'll work with
that - I'll put, as always, a link to the oo-dev ML with the draft
change. 

Off to fire up the editor, see you back at oo-dev.

TTFN,

//drew

> 
> Regards,
> 
> -Rob
> 
> >
> >>
> >> The PPMC does not control the Apache.org home page.  If the ASF
> >> decides to aggregate posts from the committers planet, then maybe that
> >> should come with a disclaimer?  Or bring in just the project blogs,
> >> not the committer blogs?  I could be talking about anything on my
> >> blog: OpenOffice, beer. satantic rituals, bagpipes, perhaps all at
> >> once.   It probably should not automatically all be promoted to the
> >> ASF home page.
> >>
> >> As for the project blogs, maybe we should just enhance the aggregator
> >> logic on the ASF home page?  For example, Google+ gets does it well,
> >> pulling in the blog title along with the post title.  Se here:
> >> https://plus.google.com/u/0/114598373874764163668/posts/ZiRcwog5cDJ  .
> >>
> >> If you try to fix it in the content itself, then you end up with
> >> suboptimal results for Google+ and other places that do bring the blog
> >> title along, ending up with something like "5 Million Downloads of
> >> Apache OpenOffice (incubating) : Apache OpenOffice (incubating)" which
> >> looks sloppy.
> >>
> >> -Rob
> >>
> >> > //drew
> >> >
> >> >
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