Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E5158C23F for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:23:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1682 invoked by uid 500); 28 May 2012 16:23:44 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 1407 invoked by uid 500); 28 May 2012 16:23:44 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 1398 invoked by uid 99); 28 May 2012 16:23:44 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:23:44 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of rgardler@opendirective.com designates 74.125.82.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.82.175] (HELO mail-we0-f175.google.com) (74.125.82.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:23:37 +0000 Received: by werg55 with SMTP id g55so2117294wer.6 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 09:23:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=opendirective.com; s=opendirective; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=cwgZmby+rgWARlPCs4QnTKQ1WQvsV89coo82sx+pTzA=; b=ay9/Tp8BvP5vtEFZ11OgczOAEJbJH1AlWuG6HV2bgbGGs9N2AkCWLPnJOth+PiUK09 pojLWOcG9FkzW84H8ZhkJeKscBDOrdlCinOCSTSSUgdN70CgRl3OveDsMWVl0QSAQOZP z27yTrWZ98zVKL/ENyPfZeoubIXBCVLnopLUY= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=cwgZmby+rgWARlPCs4QnTKQ1WQvsV89coo82sx+pTzA=; b=E4BSP5+/IUqq05oeHPy2Sv+mEtbWa2WFkSVPqhkwHyNcOFYFjZdc3URYN2pX+/ykLO WC5xMDZ8pg48iYX/o/srNgIPOHfYR5FGI5kmTeji7rK3Oc7JPaxiHZM9mdNN6/wvoExP b3bmschdqUQDT6IvGGgVPYCL4sXRTn/8VoBBvDt0JVJteKgMCN3UwWlyKgjI5Zgcy1Ux HddXE0kd2lNyWCMNu4K/u2bUHWEe7NgQbUxHurBtFz4bhi+7lGCvSg+OzPcP+LMeu3AQ uzA5PyyDfYd76toOkSD87wk88u/fgyoVxc+EsWW0ukynfq5o37mTrasN5eZGl2QCAyoj xpeg== Received: by 10.216.150.166 with SMTP id z38mr4964520wej.78.1338222196625; Mon, 28 May 2012 09:23:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.198.171 with HTTP; Mon, 28 May 2012 09:22:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [86.153.90.180] In-Reply-To: References: From: Ross Gardler Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 17:22:36 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Open enrollment To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl6DsGrUFU5AuL+jlwANGQzqPKEhhGfhsQtYeZasE7YronpZeyu2jT7KVRXjVtRKbnyHHr2 On 28 May 2012 16:56, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 5:34 AM, Ross Gardler > wrote: >>> However, I am uncomfortable with the exclusivity of language like "The initial >>> committers will be made up exclusively from existing contributors". >> >> Why? Specifically, imagine a new project coming into the incubator. >> They have a vibrant and healthy community. They already operate >> according to the Apache Way. They want to limit initial contributors >> to those who have already demonstrated merit in the project. Their >> justification is that everyone who is currently a committer earned >> that right through hard work and they don't want to undermine that by >> giving Joe Blogs the power of veto over critical decisions until they >> too have proven themselves. >> >> In such circumstances why, as an IPMC member, would you object to this >> approach? > > Hmm, there must have been a serious failure of communication between us if > think I'd object to that. :\ OK, it's just that the comment from you quoted above ("I am uncomfortable with the exclusivity of language like "The initial committers will be made up exclusively from existing contributors".) seemed pretty final. If that was not the intention then all is good. I'm certainly in agreement that open enrollment should be an option not a requirement. Ross Ross --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org