Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9FAE5C687 for ; Wed, 2 May 2012 22:55:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 70636 invoked by uid 500); 2 May 2012 22:55:45 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 70425 invoked by uid 500); 2 May 2012 22:55:44 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 70417 invoked by uid 99); 2 May 2012 22:55:44 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 02 May 2012 22:55:44 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of enjoyjava@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.48 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.216.48] (HELO mail-qa0-f48.google.com) (209.85.216.48) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 02 May 2012 22:55:36 +0000 Received: by qady23 with SMTP id y23so1047727qad.0 for ; Wed, 02 May 2012 15:55:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=3vJXkFEQWIYVxujUij4yA0RejPkUaRJ9Wnlf4WH8wfQ=; b=RJvsrOPVP2sSRdTARo6V7psaOgybtiO2brCT8nobL0NIt2pnTkNpncvLvDdIgOMoRf I0itXqONqyo1ZXh/a8O33YQpTYfKVDTZQDrmEtoBHn4hm4tecstW+PAMZZ60Tad/z81U XedvRyf28JflGZ4Uqez9XwBX+MJchH7nrG44oF6xwnE5EXdUrqiYiAqW8EsbMteEKEOf pGKx1w2xKIRz/kK/E3vJuSVwbnQ/vQMaIve37FSFCASsDSynphO7fG1HXEndzk1mwtdv V9BymAC+ovCqNbX20892IqgjhrwcbpbIBQmP9LzWaYuqjUaajuFNGsbts4ANNkXC4CBs 53Tw== Received: by 10.229.105.65 with SMTP id s1mr4860992qco.123.1335999316266; Wed, 02 May 2012 15:55:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.22.8.16] ([64.125.233.251]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ha3sm5619650qab.13.2012.05.02.15.55.15 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 02 May 2012 15:55:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Mentor cleanup References: From: Raymond Feng Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B176) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <4A0026E3-C8AA-4C8E-9D6B-2E83D9E0A7C1@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 15:55:11 -0700 To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Hi, Jukka.=20 I already joined ipmc when Amber invited me (acknowledged by ipmc too). Whic= h status file did you refer to? Thanks, Raymond Feng Sent from my iPhone On May 2, 2012, at 3:47 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Hi, >=20 > To a large extent the Incubator relies on the efforts of our mentors > to help podling communities learn the Apache Way and the various ASF > policies and practices. Usually this works pretty well, but every know > and then we see podlings that are left struggling with little or no > mentor help. An unfortunately we don't have very good mechanisms in > place for detecting and dealing with such situations. >=20 > I'd like to start fixing that by first figuring out the extent of the > problem and identifying at least the podlings worst affected by such > "mentor deficit". To do so I started going through the mentors listed > for each podling reporting this month (except ones still in their > first quarter) and tried to spot any community interactions from the > mentors over the past three months on either the public or private > project mailing lists. I classified a mentor as "active" if at least > one such interaction (including a report sign-off) was spotted, and > "inactive" otherwise. IMHO someone who doesn't show up with any > feedback or other help, not even a +1 to a draft report, over an > entire quarter isn't living up to the expectations we generally set on > project mentors. >=20 > If your name shows up as an "inactive" mentor below, that may be a) a > mistake on my part, b) temporary absence for whatever reason, c) a > call to action, or d) a reason to consider resigning from mentoring > that particular podling. In case of d), such resignation should not be > considered a failure (we're all volunteers here), but rather a > valuable signal to the rest of the IPMC that new mentors may be needed > for that podling. >=20 > With that background, here are my results for the first batch of six > podlings (more to come over the next few days): >=20 > Airavata > - active: Alek Slominski, Ate Douma, Chris Mattmann, Ross Gardler > - inactive: Paul Fremantle, Sanjiva Weerawarana >=20 > Ambari > - active: Owen O'Malley > - inactive: Arun C. Murthy, Chris Douglas >=20 > Amber > - active, not in status file: Raymond Feng > - inactive: Brian McCallister, David Jencks, Gianugo Rabellino, > Jean-Frederic Clere > - listed in projects.xml: Henning Schmiedehausen >=20 > Clerezza > - active: Ross Gardler > - inactive: Karl Pauls, Reinhard Poetz > - listed in projects.xml: Gianugo Rabellino >=20 > DeltaSpike > - active: David Blevins, Gerhard Petracek, Jim Jagielski, Mark > Struberg, Matt Benson, Matthias Wessendorf >=20 > Droids > - active: Richard Frovarp, Thorsten Scherler > - inactive: Paul Fremantle >=20 > Note that for Amber and Clerezza the the projects.xml file lists a > different set of mentors than than the status page. I assume that the > status page is more up to date in such cases. We discussed this > mismatch a bit in another thread some while ago, but it looks like we > need to bring that up again. >=20 > Also, Amber seems to have invited Raymond Feng as a new mentor, but > the status page hasn't yet been updated to reflect this. Raymond, if > you're reading this, as a mentor you should join the IPMC to have a > binding vote on matters related to the podling. As an ASF member you > can simply let me know that you want to join the IPMC and I'll take > care of the rest. >=20 > BR, >=20 > Jukka Zitting >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org >=20 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org