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From Simone Tripodi <simonetrip...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Apache Syncope 1.0.0-RC1-incubating / 2nd attempt
Date Mon, 21 May 2012 07:43:56 GMT
Hi all,

apologize for the lack of participation but I'm in the middle of a
very busy month :S

> Is that compatible? "Indiana University Extreme! Lab Software License"
> I think its fine, but I am not very good with that boring stuff:
> http://apache.org/legal/3party.html

It is, and looks like other ASF projects already include it, such as
Apache Solr[1]. Also Apache Maven uses it as a transitive dependency,
being shipped with the Modello project that generates an XPP parser
for the Maven model.

SO, I'd consider the XPP license issue resolved - of course at Syncope
we need to include it in the LICENSE file contained in the war file
that redistribute it.

Thanks for the feedbacks and sorry once again for the lack of participation

best,
-Simo

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On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Christian Grobmeier
<grobmeier@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The point is that we don't vote binaries, we vote sources. Generated
>> binaries are just by-products of the build.
>>
>> That we distribute binaries is just for convenience.
>
> which does not change anything imho
>
>> Now, I do think that we should include into the N&L files the licenses for
>> 3rd parties we *directly* include, but not those that are transivitely
>> included. I may be wrong though. I understand your position, too.
>>
>> It may be worthful to ask beside this thread what is the correct way to
>> refer those transitive dependencies...
>
> +1
>
> Did not know there were other positions actually.
>
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#best-practice-license
>>> "All the licenses on all the files to be included within a package
>>> should be included in the LICENSE document. "
>>
>> But as soon as we include the deps' licenses we include, even if they
>> themselves include some 3rd party licenses, my understanding is that they
>> already have done the job...
>
> If they did it it. I have not opened all the files to be honest, but
> is this something we can rely on (that they have done their job
> proberly)?
>
>>> It says to me, it does not matter who depends on what, it does only
>>> matter whats inside your war.
>>>
>>> Btw, I am still unsure which license XPP has. This is worse, because:
>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#distribute-other-artifacts
>>> "Again, these artifacts may be distributed only if they contain
>>> LICENSE and NOTICE files"
>>
>>
>> See on
>> http://www.extreme.indiana.edu/dist/java-repository/xpp3/distributions/,
>> unzip the
>> http://www.extreme.indiana.edu/dist/java-repository/xpp3/distributions/xpp3-1.1.4c_src.tgz
>> tarball and check the included license.
>
> Thanks! I opened the jar from the Syncope war, there was no info included.
>
> Is that compatible? "Indiana University Extreme! Lab Software License"
> I think its fine, but I am not very good with that boring stuff:
> http://apache.org/legal/3party.html
>
> Btw, this phrase is interesting:
> "Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright notice"
>
> This includes the provided war file. There is no copyright notice of
> XPP and my guess is the license holders are not interested if we are
> having it as transitive lib or not.
>
> Cheers
> Christian
>
>
>> "Indiana University Extreme! Lab Software License
>>
>> Version 1.1.1
>>
>> Copyright (c) 2002 Extreme! Lab, Indiana University. All rights reserved.
>>
>> Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
>> modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions
>> are met:
>>
>> 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright notice,
>>   this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
>>
>> 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright
>>   notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in
>>   the documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
>>
>> 3. The end-user documentation included with the redistribution, if any,
>>   must include the following acknowledgment:
>>
>>  "This product includes software developed by the Indiana University
>>  Extreme! Lab (http://www.extreme.indiana.edu/)."
>>
>> Alternately, this acknowledgment may appear in the software itself,
>> if and wherever such third-party acknowledgments normally appear.
>>
>> 4. The names "Indiana Univeristy" and "Indiana Univeristy Extreme! Lab"
>> must not be used to endorse or promote products derived from this
>> software without prior written permission. For written permission,
>> please contact http://www.extreme.indiana.edu/.
>>
>> 5. Products derived from this software may not use "Indiana Univeristy"
>> name nor may "Indiana Univeristy" appear in their name, without prior
>> written permission of the Indiana University."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Cordialement,
>> Emmanuel Lécharny
>> www.iktek.com
>>
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