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From Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com>
Subject RE: Lucene.NET status
Date Fri, 11 May 2012 01:37:44 GMT

It's a good idea - we're going to discuss this and see what we can do.  I definitely would
like to bring in some new committers. I know that the committers we do have are extremely
busy with other parts of their lives - it would be great to bring in some new people who can
help out. We'll do what we can. ~P
 > From: jukka.zitting@gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 15:55:50 +0200
> Subject: Re: Lucene.NET status
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Stefan Bodewig <bodewig@apache.org> wrote:
> > On 2012-05-10, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> >> However, the one thing I am a bit worried about is that I couldn't
> >> tell when was the last time you added a new committer to the team.
> >
> > Never.
> 
> OK.
> 
> >> Your contribution report [1] shows some people who've contributed lots
> >> of patches but aren't committers yet. What's up with that?
> >
> >> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ConfigureReport.jspa?versionId=-1&issueStatus=all&selectedProjectId=12310290&reportKey=com.sourcelabs.jira.plugin.report.contributions%3Acontributionreport&Next=Next
> >
> > Many of those contributions happened before Lucene.NET re-entered
> > incubation, the people have been let down back then and never came back
> > when Lucene.NET came back to life.
> 
> That's a good reminder of the importance of bringing in new committers
> when you can. Without a constant stream of new people a project will
> eventually lose steam as existing committers lose interest or become
> otherwise occupied for whatever other reason.
> 
> > Is there a way to get a contribution report for the last year only or
> > something similar?  Filtering by version likely won't cut it.
> 
> AFAICT it's not possible by default, though someone with enough Jira
> skills would likely be able to create such a report.
> 
> > Of the top ten people some already are committers (Digy and Prescott)
> > and only two other names ring a bell (I haven't been involved with
> > Lucene.NET prior to becoming a mentor).  Many contributions to
> > Lucene.NET are one-off contributions and so far almost all contributors
> > have been content with discussing their issues in JIRA.  Unfortunately.
> 
> OK, thanks for the background.
> 
> I've been involved with quite a few podlings with similar problems in
> attracting longer-term contributors. In my experience the best way to
> solve that problem is to change your mindset of expecting most such
> people to be just one-off contributors. If you instead treat them as
> your next new committers and engage with them as peers, many (though
> of course not all) will respond in kind and actually become more
> involved.
> 
> Many developers, especially from commercial backgrounds, tend to treat
> such contributors as just users reporting a problem. A typical
> interaction goes like "What's the problem? Do you have a test case?
> OK, let me fix it (when I get around to it)." A better approach is
> something like "What's the problem? OK, here are some pointers to the
> relevant bits in code. How do you think this should be fixed?"
> 
> BR,
> 
> Jukka Zitting
> 
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