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Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 19:47:42 +0200
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Subject: Re: Is there an ASF license for Apple's "Apple Developer Program" ?
From: dsh <daniel.haischt@googlemail.com>
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+1

Cheers
Daniel

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 7:43 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. <wrowe@rowe-clan.net> w=
rote:
> On 3/31/2012 8:43 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 7:20 AM, Ross Gardler <rgardler@opendirective.co=
m>wrote:
>>
>>> There isn't (to my knowledge), I can imagine an increasing number of
>>> projects wanting such a thing though. Unless someone tells me I'm
>>> wrong and we already have one would you be interested in seeing if
>>> Apple are open to such an arrangement?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I'd recommend first very careful review of the licensing terms first, on
>> legal-discuss, to ensure that we're comfortable with any restrictions us=
e
>> of their SDK brings. =A0This would also help with other potential
>> contributors who might have iOS apps they would like to contribute, but
>> whose current analysis suggests that the Apple terms are incompatible.
>
> nonsense
>
> These are the very same SDK tools that these very same Apache Committers =
already
> use on a daily basis.
>
> The only modulo here is that some have access through work. =A0Some purch=
ase their
> own access. =A0Some have been comp'ed subscriptions individually or throu=
gh other
> organizations.
>
> This simply makes the same tool for a committer free or discounted from w=
hat
> they already paid. =A0For example, I was an MSDN subscriber through work =
for some
> years, as a consultant for some years, took a break from my subscription =
on some
> other years. =A0Now, I'm using a subscription donated for ASF committers.=
 =A0Nothing
> changed.
>
> Sure, you can have a discussion about whether some WizBang API introduces=
 new
> licensing restrictions, platform lock-in, etc. =A0But we are NOT GOING TO=
 BEGIN
> auditing the Oracle Developer Suite, the Microsoft Developer Network, the=
 Apple
> Developer Network, the IBM HP VMware Google RedHat Citrix Adobe Amazon (O=
H GOD
> MAKE IT STOP!!!) developer tool program for every possible future quirk.
>
> There are real questions to be asked about specific tools and specific ap=
i's in
> the open source and closed source world and the projects which are affect=
ed need
> to do their homework and work with ASF legal to resolve ambiguity. =A0But=
 any of
> these examples includes hundreds of tools and api's and sdk's which have =
no
> intersection with an ASF code base.
>
> If Jim works out some connections for ASF <> Apple and you use Apple then=
 enjoy
> that perk, and otherwise, please EIGNORE? =A0Thanks :)
>
>
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