From general-return-35231-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Wed Apr 4 00:05:29 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 176759FBB for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 00:05:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 60495 invoked by uid 500); 4 Apr 2012 00:05:27 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 60295 invoked by uid 500); 4 Apr 2012 00:05:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 60261 invoked by uid 99); 4 Apr 2012 00:05:27 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 04 Apr 2012 00:05:27 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of dennis.hamilton@acm.org designates 216.119.133.2 as permitted sender) Received: from [216.119.133.2] (HELO a2s42.a2hosting.com) (216.119.133.2) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 04 Apr 2012 00:05:18 +0000 Received: from 71-217-70-159.tukw.qwest.net ([71.217.70.159] helo=Astraendo) by a2s42.a2hosting.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SFDib-001TtW-4H; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 20:04:57 -0400 Reply-To: From: "Dennis E. Hamilton" To: Cc: "'Simon Phipps'" , "'Jim Jagielski'" References: <76EE7D22-F6C0-46E6-912C-8175EB311C61@jaguNET.com> <4F7B3A07.3050104@ping.de> <4F7B4F21.30601@ping.de> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: CloudStack Incubation proposal Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:04:58 -0700 Organization: NuovoDoc Message-ID: <007301cd11f6$93a84d40$baf8e7c0$@acm.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQIWDjLvERVhHkS1U+Nzlo3zqfaHvQIstmkgAVWI7LYB3MXeLQJuMOHylblf+gA= Content-Language: en-us X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - a2s42.a2hosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - incubator.apache.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - acm.org Minor nit: In economic terms, Apache OpenOffice and LibreOffice are not = complementary.=20 - Dennis In computing, an example of complements are hardware and software. = Software vendors want the hardware to be free (more for us!) and = hardware vendors want the software to be free (more for us!). Throw in = telecommunication carriers, smartphones, and software and it gets really = exciting. There is some other term needed for independent producers that deliver = comparables while cooperating in areas of mutual interest. Although = monopolistic competition arises (mines better than yours), it is = moderated in the case of open-source efforts. (Perhaps this is because = there cannot be abuse of, let alone achievement of, monopoly power where = feature differentiation is in the open-source code base.) -----Original Message----- From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:jim@apache.org]=20 Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 13:32 To: general@incubator.apache.org Cc: Simon Phipps Subject: Re: CloudStack Incubation proposal On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:27 PM, Andreas Kuckartz wrote: > On 03.04.2012 20:10, Jim Jagielski wrote: >=20 >> Oh come on... 1st of all, it's a joke. >=20 > One I do not find funny at all. You should have. It was funny. Maybe you need a funny bone transplant? >=20 >> And 2ndly, people could complain that we should >> refuse the donation and force them to >> put all their code/energies into OpenStack... >=20 > CloudStack and OpenStack seem to be complementary and they use the = same > license. I expect collaboration between these projects to increase not > decrease. >=20 LO and AOOo are complementary and they are setup so that code can move in a very Pro-LO direction. I would like collaboration between these projects to increase not decrease. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org