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From Mohammad Nour El-Din <nour.moham...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: CloudStack Incubation proposal
Date Wed, 04 Apr 2012 15:47:25 GMT
Hi...

On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:

>
> On Apr 3, 2012, at 1:31 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>
> >
> > On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:27 PM, Andreas Kuckartz wrote:
> >
> >> On 03.04.2012 20:10, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> >>
> >>> Oh come on... 1st of all, it's a joke.
> >>
> >> One I do not find funny at all.
> >
> > You should have. It was funny. Maybe you need a
> > funny bone transplant?
> >
> >>
> >>> And 2ndly, people could complain that we should
> >>> refuse the donation and force them to
> >>> put all their code/energies into OpenStack...
> >>
> >> CloudStack and OpenStack seem to be complementary and they use the same
> >> license. I expect collaboration between these projects to increase not
> >> decrease.
> >>
> >
> > LO and AOOo are complementary and they are setup so that
> > code can move in a very Pro-LO direction. I would like
> > collaboration between these projects to increase not
> > decrease.
>
> There is a post on Wired that discusses the split between CloudStack and
> OpenStack. [1]
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> [1] http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2012/04/citrix-cloudstack/


I read that link and IMHO:

1- I believe there is no problem that Citrix didn't find it self in
OpenStack community and they looked into other open source communities into
which they can invest their expertise and technology and also invest in
building a community around that by donating that code to ASF

2- These kinds of splits I believe it happens all the time and no harm
about it at all more specifically it has been mentioned that the split was
a clean one and no problems emerged as a consequence

3- I don't think at all that donating CloudStack to ASF can be looked at as
starting a *war* between open source cloud stacks in a bad way, on contrary
I believe that different open source communities compete among each other
in the good meaning of the word which is the main engine behind open source
innovation that each community tries to produce the best they can

4- If what is said is that article and other related articles is true [1],
that CloudStack is more mature and stable than OpenStack, then I believe
that is good for ASF to have CloudStack

Referrals to AOO and problems and challenges happened at that time as
accepting the donation of such big project, I think we now have a better
opportunity to deal better with the case of CloudStack because we can learn
from what happened back at the time of AOO

That said I believe it is better to focus on the proposal and the
challenges we have when/if accepting CloudStack, which I believe that we
should accept such proposal

[1] -
http://blogs.gartner.com/lydia_leong/2012/04/03/citrix-cloudstack-openstack-and-the-war-for-open-source-clouds/


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