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From Benjamin Hindman <benjamin.hind...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Mesos 0.9.0-incubating (RC4)
Date Fri, 13 Apr 2012 17:09:01 GMT
Ping.

Hi Mentors,

What's the policy on distributing third party _sources_ provided we've
included the appropriate licenses in NOTICE? Knowing whether or not we can
do this is blocking us from pushing out a RC5.

Thanks much!

Ben.


On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Matei Zaharia <matei@eecs.berkeley.edu>wrote:

> Hi Sebb,
>
> The third party libraries we included were actually all source code, just
> compressed in tar.gz files to save space. There were no JARs or binaries.
> Is distributing their source code okay, or is it still better to get people
> to download them elsewhere?
>
> Matei
>
>
> On Apr 10, 2012, at 6:03 AM, sebb wrote:
>
> > On 8 April 2012 23:48, Benjamin Hindman <benh@berkeley.edu> wrote:
> >> Hi Sebb,
> >>
> >> Thanks so much for taking a look! Responses inline.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 2:22 PM, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 7 April 2012 02:59, Benjamin Hindman <benh@berkeley.edu> wrote:
> >>>> Please vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache Mesos
> >>>> (incubating) version 0.9.0. This will be the first incubator release
> for
> >>>> Mesos in Apache, but the fifth release candidate.
> >>>>
> >>>> Vote thread on mesos-dev@incubator.apache.org:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-mesos-dev/201203.mbox/%3CCAFeOQnW7jk-VcTFpUP-_VonL99JCnggKeNPW%2BGx-Ozdy1U8sjg%40mail.gmail.com%3E
> >>>>
> >>>> The candidate for Mesos 0.9.0-incubating release is available at:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> http://people.apache.org/~benh/mesos-0.9.0-incubating-RC4/mesos-0.9.0-incubating.tar.gz
> >>>>
> >>>> The tag to be voted on:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/mesos/tags/release-0.9.0-incubating-RC4
> >>>
> >>> The NOTICE file is incomplete; the product name and copyright year(s)
> >>> are missing.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Thanks, I'll add that.
> >>
> >>
> >>> The LICENSE file includes references to several 3rd party items.
> >>> It looks like glog and utilities.cc and others may require mention in
> >>> NOTICE.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Is there a document somewhere which describes when something needs to go
> >> into NOTICE in addition to LICENSE? I had read previously read the
> section
> >> titled "What Are Required Third-Party Notices?" from
> >> http://apache.org/legal/resolved.html#required-third-party-notices but
> I
> >> still was unclear whether or not anything needed to be done.
> >
> > AFAIK, it depends on what the license says.
> >
> >>
> >>> There's no DISCLAIMER file in SVN root.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Right, I'll add that.
> >>
> >>
> >>> There are several 3rd party libraries in SVN under
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/mesos/tags/release-0.9.0-incubating-RC4/third_party/
> >>
> >>
> >> This was deliberate, so as to make it easier to use for both developers
> >> (who check out the repository) and users (who download a distribution).
> Is
> >> there a policy against this? I saw this as analogous to distributing
> JARs.
> >>
> >
> > AIUI, there must be a source-only release.
> > This should have N&L files that relate to the source only.
> >
> > A binary release may also be provided, in which case its N&L files
> > need to correspond with what is in the binary release.
> >
> > For building from source, the dependencies need to be provided somehow.
> > Various options are possible:
> > - written instructions how to get the dependencies and where to put them
> > - separate script to download the dependencies
> > - build process automatically downloads the dependencies.
> >
> > Depending on the licenses of 3rd party jars you may need to provide a
> > combination of methods.
> > There are some types of dependencies that can only be included if the
> > user makes a deliberate choice of downloading them, see the cited doc.
> >
> > If all the dependencies are binary-distributable, it's probably also
> > OK to provide an archive containing just the dependencies.
> > This must have the relevant N&L files.
> >
> >>
> >> Is the correct next step to cancel this vote,
> >
> > IMO, yes.
> >
> >> create a RC5, and start a new vote thread for that?
> >
> > Once the issues have been resolved, yes.
> >
> >> Or modify RC4?
> >
> > No, RCs should be immutable. Otherwise how can one tell what one is
> voting on?
> >
> >> Thank you very much!
> >>
> >> Ben.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>> The MD5 checksum of the tarball can be found at:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> http://people.apache.org/~benh/mesos-0.9.0-incubating-RC4/mesos-0.9.0-incubating.tar.gz.md5
> >>>>
> >>>> The signature of the tarball can be found at:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> http://people.apache.org/~benh/mesos-0.9.0-incubating-RC4/mesos-0.9.0-incubating.tar.gz.asc
> >>>>
> >>>> Mesos' KEYS file, containing the PGP keys used to sign the release:
> >>>>  http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/mesos/dist/KEYS
> >>>>
> >>>> Please vote on releasing this package as Apache Mesos
> 0.9.0-incubating!
> >>>>
> >>>> The vote is open until Tuesday, April 10th at 8 pm (a bit more than
72
> >>>> hours since it's over the weekend) and passes if a majority of at
> least 3
> >>>> +1 IPMC votes are cast.
> >>>>
> >>>> [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache Mesos 0.9.0-incubating
> >>>> [ ] -1 Do not release this package because ...
> >>>>
> >>>> To learn more about Apache Mesos, please see
> >>>> http://incubator.apache.org/mesos.
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