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From Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: CloudStack Incubation proposal
Date Wed, 04 Apr 2012 15:54:29 GMT
And we could simply ignore all this, as there was never any actual intent
to assume an analogous situation. It was a flip comment. That's all. Please
stop reading more into things, and escalating discussions.

Have fun. Move along.

-g
On Apr 4, 2012 11:47 AM, "Mohammad Nour El-Din" <nour.mohammad@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi...
>
> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Apr 3, 2012, at 1:31 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:27 PM, Andreas Kuckartz wrote:
> > >
> > >> On 03.04.2012 20:10, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Oh come on... 1st of all, it's a joke.
> > >>
> > >> One I do not find funny at all.
> > >
> > > You should have. It was funny. Maybe you need a
> > > funny bone transplant?
> > >
> > >>
> > >>> And 2ndly, people could complain that we should
> > >>> refuse the donation and force them to
> > >>> put all their code/energies into OpenStack...
> > >>
> > >> CloudStack and OpenStack seem to be complementary and they use the
> same
> > >> license. I expect collaboration between these projects to increase not
> > >> decrease.
> > >>
> > >
> > > LO and AOOo are complementary and they are setup so that
> > > code can move in a very Pro-LO direction. I would like
> > > collaboration between these projects to increase not
> > > decrease.
> >
> > There is a post on Wired that discusses the split between CloudStack and
> > OpenStack. [1]
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dave
> >
> > [1] http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2012/04/citrix-cloudstack/
>
>
> I read that link and IMHO:
>
> 1- I believe there is no problem that Citrix didn't find it self in
> OpenStack community and they looked into other open source communities into
> which they can invest their expertise and technology and also invest in
> building a community around that by donating that code to ASF
>
> 2- These kinds of splits I believe it happens all the time and no harm
> about it at all more specifically it has been mentioned that the split was
> a clean one and no problems emerged as a consequence
>
> 3- I don't think at all that donating CloudStack to ASF can be looked at as
> starting a *war* between open source cloud stacks in a bad way, on contrary
> I believe that different open source communities compete among each other
> in the good meaning of the word which is the main engine behind open source
> innovation that each community tries to produce the best they can
>
> 4- If what is said is that article and other related articles is true [1],
> that CloudStack is more mature and stable than OpenStack, then I believe
> that is good for ASF to have CloudStack
>
> Referrals to AOO and problems and challenges happened at that time as
> accepting the donation of such big project, I think we now have a better
> opportunity to deal better with the case of CloudStack because we can learn
> from what happened back at the time of AOO
>
> That said I believe it is better to focus on the proposal and the
> challenges we have when/if accepting CloudStack, which I believe that we
> should accept such proposal
>
> [1] -
>
> http://blogs.gartner.com/lydia_leong/2012/04/03/citrix-cloudstack-openstack-and-the-war-for-open-source-clouds/
>
>
> >
> >
> >
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> --
> Thanks
> - Mohammad Nour
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