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From: Jukka Zitting <jukka.zitting@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:06:55 +0200
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Subject: Re: Binary dependencies in source releases (Was: [VOTE] Release
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Hi,

On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 1:16 AM, Leo Simons <mail@leosimons.com> wrote:
> That said, I'm not aware of us actually having such a release out there?

Take such fringe projects like Ant, Tomcat, Lucene and Xalan that have
been shipping releases like throughout the past decade. See examples
dating back at least to [1], [2], [3] and [4]. It looks like at least
Ant and Tomcat have since opted for downloading dependencies at build
time, but I must have missed the memo if that change was driven by
Apache policy requirements rather than just the emergence of the
central Maven repository making such downloads practical.

So to have anyone call this *not* a standard practice at ASF makes, to
borrow your expression, my jaw drop. And a board member who's
threatening to wipe out a decade worth of releases of some of the most
popular open source projects in the world. Again, to borrow your
expression, huh?

As said earlier, I'm fine if people want to clarify our policies
regarding this and revise current practice. But let's please have a
proper debate about the merits of the alternatives and give affected
projects proper time to adjust in case changes are required.

[1] http://archive.apache.org/dist/ant/source/jakarta-ant-1.1.zip
[2] http://archive.apache.org/dist/tomcat/tomcat-3/src/jakarta-tomcat-3.3.1a-src.tar.gz
[3] http://archive.apache.org/dist/lucene/java/archive/lucene-1.4.3-src.tar.gz
[4] http://archive.apache.org/dist/xml/xalan-j/source/xalan-j_2_2-src.tar.gz

BR,

Jukka Zitting

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