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<20120310141927.GA25119@daniel3.local> <20120313134829.GA12633@daniel3.local> From: Patrick Hunt Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:56:22 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: S4 status (was: Re: Thoughts on Incubator board reports) To: general@incubator.apache.org, s4-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +s4-dev@ On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:48 AM, Daniel Shahaf wro= te: > Ping, waiting for a response from s4-dev@ folks. > > Daniel Shahaf wrote on Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 16:19:27 +0200: >> Jukka Zitting wrote on Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 14:41:00 +0100: >> > Just pick one from the list (ideally one that you aren't directly >> > mentoring), read the submitted report (if one exists!) and compare it >> > to the previous report (for most podlings that's the one from December >> > [2]) and a quick browsing of things like the podling status page [3], >> > web site, list archives and svn commit history. Then, if needed, >> > follow up with a "$podling status" mail to general@ for any feedback >> > or questions that you may have. You =A0may also place the podling in t= he >> > appropriate category in the report summary if the review gave you a >> > good enough picture of the podling status. >> > >> >> Thanks for the actionable item Jukka, here's my take on the S4 report: >> >> It sounds like the project has successfully migrated its infrastructure >> to Apache and is progressing well on the technical front. =A0However, I'= m >> concerned by the emphasis on technical details (eg, the feature list of >> the trunk-become-0.5 version) and the lack of details on "Grow the >> community"; it is the latter, not the former, which is the purpose of >> the incubator and a blocker to graduation. >> >> The community appears to consist of 2-3 active contributors: >> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-s4-dev/201202.mbox/au= thor >> I'd like to hear from the PPMC how they plan to expand their dev >> community. >> >> Daniel >> >> P.S. The metrics aren't really clear. =A0What is "55 on dev" --- 55 uniq= ue >> posters? =A055 posts? =A0Did they change by more than X% since last quar= ter? >> >> > [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2012 >> > [2] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2011 >> > [3] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ >> > >> > BR, >> > >> > Jukka Zitting >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org >> > >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org