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From Flavio Junqueira <...@s4.io>
Subject Re: S4 status (was: Re: Thoughts on Incubator board reports)
Date Tue, 13 Mar 2012 23:21:13 GMT
Thanks for your interest in the project. Here are my thoughts about the points raised.

>>> I'd like to hear from the PPMC how they plan to expand their dev
>>> community.


I expect us to attract more developers by increasing awareness. We have given presentations
about the project internally (at least at Yahoo!) and externally. Some of the developers have
written a paper about it and presented in 2010 (KDCloud) and we have proposed a talk for the
next hadoop summit. Hopefully as developers hear more about the project they will feel compelled
to join the community and contribute. We also expect to attract more attention once we have
a release out (I believe we are close to cut a release). With a release, we can write a few
blog posts about it and promote the project. 

Is there anything important I'm missing?

>>> P.S. The metrics aren't really clear.  What is "55 on dev" --- 55 unique
>>> posters?  55 posts?  Did they change by more than X% since last quarter?

We don't have numbers from previous quarters. The only other number I have is 124 watchers
on github.

-Flavio

On Mar 13, 2012, at 10:56 PM, Patrick Hunt wrote:

> +s4-dev@
> 
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:48 AM, Daniel Shahaf <d.s@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>> Ping, waiting for a response from s4-dev@ folks.
>> 
>> Daniel Shahaf wrote on Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 16:19:27 +0200:
>>> Jukka Zitting wrote on Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 14:41:00 +0100:
>>>> Just pick one from the list (ideally one that you aren't directly
>>>> mentoring), read the submitted report (if one exists!) and compare it
>>>> to the previous report (for most podlings that's the one from December
>>>> [2]) and a quick browsing of things like the podling status page [3],
>>>> web site, list archives and svn commit history. Then, if needed,
>>>> follow up with a "$podling status" mail to general@ for any feedback
>>>> or questions that you may have. You  may also place the podling in the
>>>> appropriate category in the report summary if the review gave you a
>>>> good enough picture of the podling status.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the actionable item Jukka, here's my take on the S4 report:
>>> 
>>> It sounds like the project has successfully migrated its infrastructure
>>> to Apache and is progressing well on the technical front.  However, I'm
>>> concerned by the emphasis on technical details (eg, the feature list of
>>> the trunk-become-0.5 version) and the lack of details on "Grow the
>>> community"; it is the latter, not the former, which is the purpose of
>>> the incubator and a blocker to graduation.
>>> 
>>> The community appears to consist of 2-3 active contributors:
>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-s4-dev/201202.mbox/author
>>> I'd like to hear from the PPMC how they plan to expand their dev
>>> community.
>>> 
>>> Daniel
>>> 
>>> P.S. The metrics aren't really clear.  What is "55 on dev" --- 55 unique
>>> posters?  55 posts?  Did they change by more than X% since last quarter?
>>> 
>>>> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2012
>>>> [2] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2011
>>>> [3] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/
>>>> 
>>>> BR,
>>>> 
>>>> Jukka Zitting
>>>> 
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