Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D638E99BC for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2012 16:00:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 92157 invoked by uid 500); 9 Feb 2012 16:00:47 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 91784 invoked by uid 500); 9 Feb 2012 16:00:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 91776 invoked by uid 99); 9 Feb 2012 16:00:46 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:00:46 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of jukka.zitting@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.43 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.82.43] (HELO mail-ww0-f43.google.com) (74.125.82.43) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:00:40 +0000 Received: by wgbdr13 with SMTP id dr13so4881149wgb.0 for ; Thu, 09 Feb 2012 08:00:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xe+j7fnQyXrCkV0kOMS2uoYZZQ+BA7jOpefzxNUFxmQ=; b=HytRHvnP07SKwf6oqEDOZjZ1FLHEh0tWp5xD4hGD+5+Mz2b5hcQnTs6/qu2++dbKp/ hc8QVBa4cFs4XsS42S7LeCYMs/oSOGQbSR9oiP6H9BbQ2alhNuY1fb9cOX2d6pTOo1oX GjjTt0YQlRl0F30wkcG53fGh9HioQp/WqhP0U= Received: by 10.216.137.66 with SMTP id x44mr8834503wei.41.1328803219118; Thu, 09 Feb 2012 08:00:19 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.106.71 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Feb 2012 07:59:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Jukka Zitting Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 16:59:59 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: February report review To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Jukka Zitting w= rote: >> Sam suggested asking prodlings in category 2 to report back again next >> month on their progress towards solving the mentioned issues. > > Hey, now don't go and start spreading false rumors here. =A0Particularly > as the archives are available for all to review. =A0:-) No misrepresentation intended, just an inaccurate generalization on my part= . > What I would like to see is the Incubator start identifying PPMCs that > are stalled, and to consider what information they need (in future > reports) to help them (us) make such a determination. =A0I am not > suggesting that this be made retroactive. =A0Or that it be done > immediately. =A0A plan would be fine: i.e., setting a date by which the > IPMC will have decided what information needs to be in such reports, > and a schedule by which the PPMCs need to start providing said > information. My suggestion is to ask the podlings now in category 2 to report again in May on their progress on the identified blockers. If there's been no measurable progress by then, we'll dig deeper to see what we can do. Podlings reporting in other months can be picked up for a similar oversight cycle over the coming months. By July we should then have a pretty accurate record of progress throughout the entire Incubator, including a clear list of podlings that are stuck and need help. Before the next quarterly report I'd rely on mentors to help the podlings identify and implement ways to move forward. And of course, if a podling or its mentors feel that more help is needed, asking on general@ or submitting an extra report is always a good idea. BR, Jukka Zitting --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org