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Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 09:43:47 -0800
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop from Apache Incubator
Thread-Topic: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop from Apache Incubator
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Hi Arvind,

Okey dok, just thought if you were going to cut down on confusion, it might=
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make sense to *not* include general@, regardless of the guidelines :) Other=
wise,
some IPMC person like me might think (regardless of what you put in your em=
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that you are intending it as a VOTE for the IPMC.

That's why they are, guidelines, but I don't think they are perfect.

Anyhoo, I'll just ignore the VOTE thread on general@, and assume that
it's really for the Sqoop PPMC at this point.

Cheers,
Chris

//notes to self, maybe I should go update those guidelines, as they don't
//make sense to me, but who doesn't have the energy to do so at this point.

On Feb 19, 2012, at 9:38 AM, Arvind Prabhakar wrote:

> Thanks Chris for your feedback. Yes, this vote is only intended to be hel=
d
> in the Sqoop community. However, according to the guide on graduation [2]=
,
> the guidance on community graduation vote explicitly suggests copying the
> Incubator general list when the vote is proposed. Hence, I added the
> general list in the cc of the vote mail.
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> Also, I do state explicitly in the vote mail that if this community vote =
is
> successful, we will draft a board resolution proposal and call it to vote
> on the general Incubator list. When we do draft the board resolution
> proposal it will have details about initial PMC.
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> [2] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-community-vote
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> Thanks,
> Arvind Prabhakar
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> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) <
> chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
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>> Hi Arvind,
>>=20
>> I would encourage removing another ambiguity that I saw -- I think you
>> meant
>> to only hold this on sqoop-dev, right? That's because by the time it get=
s
>> to the
>> IPMC, at least one thing I'm interested in is the proposed PMC, if there
>> are
>> 3 ASF members or not, etc., and that would be part of the resolution tha=
t
>> you guys haven't drafted yet.
>>=20
>> If you hold this on general@, then before VOTE'ing I would like to see t=
he
>> proposed graduation resolution. There's a bunch of templates, here's the
>> one
>> that Lucy just used:
>>=20
>> http://wiki.apache.org/lucy/LucyCharter
>>=20
>> Thanks!
>>=20
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>>=20
>> On Feb 19, 2012, at 9:19 AM, Arvind Prabhakar wrote:
>>=20
>>> Hi,
>>>=20
>>> I will have to cancel this vote thread due to a typo in the vote option=
s
>> in
>>> my original mail below. Specifically, the option to reject the vote
>>> is mentioned as +1 when it should be -1 instead. In order to make sure
>> that
>>> there is absolutely no ambiguity in the vote, I will send out a new vot=
e
>>> thread in a few minutes. My sincere apologies for the inconvenience.
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>>> Thanks,
>>> Arvind Prabhakar
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>>> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Arvind Prabhakar <arvind@apache.org>
>> wrote:
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>>>> The Apache Sqoop project entered incubator in June of 2011. Since then
>> we
>>>> have added three new committers from diverse organizations and added t=
wo
>>>> new PPMC members. The codebase of our product has steadily grown and w=
e
>>>> have made two releases following the ASF policies and guidelines.
>> Thanks to
>>>> the excellent mentorship we have received through this period, we have
>>>> learnt to self-govern and grow our community using accepted Apache
>>>> practices. Sqoop continues to attract interest from contributors and
>> users
>>>> from all across the world.
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>>>> Given these milestones, I strongly feel that Sqoop is ready to graduat=
e
>>>> from Incubator.
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>>>> The first step towards graduation is to vote as a community that Sqoop
>> is
>>>> ready to graduate. If the vote is successful, we will draft a board
>>>> resolution proposal and call it to vote on the general Incubator list.
>> The
>>>> complete graduation process is described [1].
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>>>> Please cast your votes:
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>>>> [  ]  +1 Graduate Sqoop from Incubator
>>>> [  ]  +0 Indifferent to graduation status of Sqoop
>>>> [  ]  +1 Reject graduation of Sqoop from Incubator
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>>>> This vote will remain open for at least 72 hours from now.
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>>>> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html
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>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Arvind Prabhakar
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>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> Senior Computer Scientist
>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> WWW:   http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW:   http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
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Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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