Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 893F29B61 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2012 17:03:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 59042 invoked by uid 500); 9 Feb 2012 17:03:42 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 58880 invoked by uid 500); 9 Feb 2012 17:03:41 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 58870 invoked by uid 99); 9 Feb 2012 17:03:41 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:03:41 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [209.85.215.175] (HELO mail-ey0-f175.google.com) (209.85.215.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:03:36 +0000 Received: by eaal10 with SMTP id l10so524196eaa.6 for ; Thu, 09 Feb 2012 09:03:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.34.211 with SMTP id m19mr489503ebd.119.1328806994945; Thu, 09 Feb 2012 09:03:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.10.100.148] (oosteinde.castasoftware.com. [81.21.138.121]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x4sm11584392eeb.4.2012.02.09.09.03.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 09 Feb 2012 09:03:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F33FC51.4060807@douma.nu> Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:03:13 +0100 From: Ate Douma User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111229 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair) References: <84113A4A-732E-4485-A6BB-C72D2418E0D4@jpl.nasa.gov> <4F33E8A3.6000706@douma.nu> <5B5AFF59-7A37-4918-B905-464663DBC62A@jpl.nasa.gov> <5B26A74D-9F24-4528-8CF6-B04AF1423D7E@jaguNET.com> <2FB340A7-C325-4632-BB81-784B43086842@jpl.nasa.gov> In-Reply-To: <2FB340A7-C325-4632-BB81-784B43086842@jpl.nasa.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmnLXcsdUm/tAh9JviEGunWtc+iXMSDnFiQr53WG7EfKKOH2BFNKfVNwZy+4NgblrB+ONeP On 02/09/2012 05:58 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: > On Feb 9, 2012, at 8:49 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > >> >> On Feb 9, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote: >> >>> >>> Well, if there's an election, the fair thing is to include all candidates and see who gets the majority. A vote on just one candidate is odd. >>> >> >> Agreed. >> >> I suggest that this VOTE be withdrawn, and a true election, >> with all candidates be done. > > What's preventing anyone from calling a VOTE on any other candidate? Of which, > as I understand it, there are none. > > Noel is the existing chair. If this VOTE is *not* successful, then he remains the chair. > If it is, successful, then the recommendation is to change him out as the chair. > > Did I miss something by actually "trying" to make progress here? For one, how or when would you call this vote successful? If there is a +3, a majority of every IPMC member, a majority from only those who voted, etc. With Noel not being voted on *at the same time*, there is no proper comparison possible on the result (votes for Jukka) and 'undetermined result (support for Noel). Ate > > Cheers, > Chris > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. > Senior Computer Scientist > NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA > Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 > Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov > WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department > University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org